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    Posted: November/10/2010 at 20:45
If choosing between these three which would perform best.
Bushnell .22 rimfire 3-9s32mm
Simmons 022 mag 3-9x32 w/ or w/o A.O. feature
Alpen Kodiac 3-9x32mm 
Alpen Kodiac 4-12x40   w/ A.O.
 
Or a brand you prefer for the .22 bolt action rifles
 
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whats your price range?
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$75 or less
Most Alpens are more
I wanted the Bushnell 3-9x32 .22 rimfire, but everyone is sold out.  Most reviews are good to excellent.  It will be 30 days before they're available again.
I've looked though the Simmons 3-9x32 seemed okay and they're available.  I believe the This Simmons is considered less quality than the Bushnell even though Bushnell makes it.  Just their lower line just above the Tasco.
Do you have any experience with either of these?
 
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I have the Bushnell 3-9x32 .22 rimfire scope. it works. it comes with rings. but I didn't use them. its worth the $29 I paid. 

very cheap scope. ugly. it works fine to 50 yards. its usable at 100. but I'm looking to replace it. the girl friend hates it, and has a lot of problems getting the eye placement correct. and it gets worse on overcast days.

a friend left his 22marlin at my place and it has a Bushnell banner 4x12 with AO. and it is a huge improvement, but $100 seems kinda steep to me.. I think AO is important on a 22LR. you can set it for 50 yards for 90% of the time then set it out to 100 for longer shots. 
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I have the Simmons .22Mag 4x, my dad has the 3-9x. His came with a canted crosshair,and is basically useless.
Mine tracks ok and holds zero,but has terrible coatings and bad spherical distortion around the outer 1/2 of the field of vision. It looks like someone rubbed vaseline around the edges of the lenses. The center is ok though. It's a workable optic,but not great.

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I like the Weaver and mine has held up well.
Weaver 2.5-7x28 Classic Rimfire Rifle Scope Dual-X Weaver 2.5-7x28 Classic Rimfire Rifle Scope
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$139.95
Sometimes its better to spend a little more for something that will last you a lifetime. This scope is a good match for a 22 the size is not bulky the power range is correct and its a time tested proven scope.

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+1 on the Weavers but those are over budget. The cheap Bushnell 3-9 rimfire isn't a bad plinking scope. Not close to the same quality of the Weaver rimfire scopes but better than most of the $50 stuff.


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In that price range look for a burris rimfire...I have 2 of them and have had excellent results with them
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The weaver is a very good choice and if you can stretch your budget I'd get it.

If times are tight, you could do a lot worse than one of these.

http://swfa.com/Konus-2-7x32-Konuspro-Rimfire-Scope-P47366.aspx

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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I like the Weaver and mine has held up well.
Weaver 2.5-7x28 Classic Rimfire Rifle Scope Dual-X Weaver 2.5-7x28 Classic Rimfire Rifle Scope
Stock # - 849431
  • Matte
  • Dual-X
  • 1"
$139.95
Sometimes its better to spend a little more for something that will last you a lifetime. This scope is a good match for a 22 the size is not bulky the power range is correct and its a time tested proven scope.
I know these are out of price range for the OP, but I am in the market too.  How about the Vortex Viper 2-7X32?  How would you compare it to the Weaver?
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Originally posted by robbie robbie wrote:

I know these are out of price range for the OP, but I am in the market too.  How about the Vortex Viper 2-7X32?  How would you compare it to the Weaver?

The 2-7x32 Viper is a little jewel. I have two and just bought a third one. It is significantly better than the Weaver as far as glass is concerned. But the Weaver is parallax adjusted for 50 yards, while the Viper is parallax adjusted for 100 yards. If you are using it on the 22LR, the parallax adjustment is better on the Weaver.

Btw, the Weaver is much better than the Simmons, BSA, etc. (although I don't have experience with Alpen scopes, their high end bino models are good). The Weaver is a real classic. I know the OP asked for $75 max. If there was any way for him to stretch his max range, the Weaver be really be a better choice.

For under $75, I would advise a used Nikon Prostaff 4x32 Rimfire, which is way better than its price of $100 new. I recently bought one used for $50, and saw several for about $75. The warranty is forever and transferable, and the customer service is excellent. In fact, as far as glass is concerned, I slightly prefer it to the Weaver.


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Originally posted by WestOfPecos WestOfPecos wrote:

Originally posted by robbie robbie wrote:

I know these are out of price range for the OP, but I am in the market too.  How about the Vortex Viper 2-7X32?  How would you compare it to the Weaver?

The 2-7x32 Viper is a little jewel. I have two and just bought a third one. It is significantly better than the Weaver as far as glass is concerned. But the Weaver is parallax adjusted for 50 yards, while the Viper is parallax adjusted for 100 yards. If you are using it on the 22LR, the parallax adjustment is better on the Weaver.

Btw, the Weaver is much better than the Simmons, BSA, etc. (although I don't have experience with Alpen scopes, their high end bino models are good). The Weaver is a real classic. I know the OP asked for $75 max. If there was any way for him to stretch his max range, the Weaver be really be a better choice.

For under $75, I would advise a used Nikon Prostaff 4x32 Rimfire, which is way better than its price of $100 new. I recently bought one used for $50, and saw several for about $75. The warranty is forever and transferable, and the customer service is excellent. In fact, as far as glass is concerned, I slightly prefer it to the Weaver.
Thanks for the response.
Yes, I'm looking at putting it on a .22Mag Lever Rifle.
What is the real world difference in the parallax difference?
Does that just mean groups will suffer by 1/4 in or so? or will there be a real "problem?"
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Originally posted by robbie robbie wrote:



Yes, I'm looking at putting it on a .22Mag Lever Rifle.
What is the real world difference in the parallax difference?
Does that just mean groups will suffer by 1/4 in or so? or will there be a real "problem?"

The formula for parallax error is:
PARALLAX ERROR = 0.5*Scope Diameter*(target distance - focus distance)/(focus distance)

If your objective is 32mm, your focus distance is 100 yards (set at factory), and your target distance is 50 yards (rimfire shooting range), then your parallax error could be up to 0.5*32mm*50/100= 8mm = abt 1/3." Hope this makes sense:-)
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Here is a used Weaver for $100.
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The fact that your putting on a 22 mag means parallax isn't a problem, and on a lever gun, the combination isn't precise enough to see the difference.
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Also, parallax error is eliminated if you have your eye centered perfectly behind the ocular.  I have used several 100 yard parallax adjusted scopes on rimfire guns without a problem.
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