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trigger29
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Smokey53119
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Anyone recall that the OP was not going to use this rifle for big game?
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trigger29
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I recall that the OP was just speaking of using 85 grain Barnes bullets... And that some day he may have a change of heart. Maybe not, but he would have a good bullet for the deer in his area.
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tjtjwdad
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I have a 6mm Remington which is very similar to a .243 Winchester. It is one of those Varmint Specials with a B-Day in April of 1970. Other than bedding and a crown she's stock with a 9-twist barrel. I picked this up as a varmint rig but I may try out big-game bullets and use it on deer or antelope. For deer, I'd have to reconsider the current scope.
All loads were shot @ 200 yards, using a Remington case, Remington 9 1/2 Mag primer and with the exception of the 105 AMAX, OAL was set to max allowed in a reloading manual which I believe is 2.820 but could be mistaken (I'm on travel and can't check). Also, all group sizes are in inches (") NOT MOA.
a. 105 AMAX.
- H4831 SC. 46.4 grains, seated between .005 & .009 off the lands 9which takes out the magazine of a SA rifle) .209 (H) x .498 (V). As the bullet was seated deaper, the group started opening up.
- H4350. 42.7 grains produced similar groups just a tad larger @ .618 (H) x .868 (V). Velocity was 2980 fps
b. 87 VMAX. To date the best loads are;
- RE-15. 40.3 grains .717 (H) x .567 (V). Velocity 3089 fps
- Hybrid 100 V. 46.8 grains .694 (H) x .360 (V). Velocity 3275 fps
- H4831 SC. 46.8 grains .400 (H) x .400 (V). Velocity 3000 fps. "Going to try some more loads a tad warmer and see how it comes out.
- H4350. 44.0 grains .664 (H) x .876 (V). Velocity 3057 fps
c. 75 VMAX. To date the best loads are;
- RE-15. 42.5 grains .309 (H) x .578 (V). Velocity 3364 fps
- H4350. 47.0 grains .928 (H) x .823 (V). Velocity 3270 fps
- H4831 SC & Hybrid 100 V, still fooling around but should know something in a couple of weeks. If intersted drop me a PM.
The only other bullet I tried was a Nosler Ballistic Tip with H4350 and they did OK. To date I have not tried any Hornady 58 gr VMAX but I will. As you can tell, I like the Hornady bullets because of their high BC's. but again, I picked this up for the extra horsepower of my other caliber, 204 Ruger.
HTH,
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pyro6999
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ok i concede. practice and placement make more of difference than the caliber will regardless. its personal preference for me i guess. i know a ton of people love the .223 for deer, i personally would pass on that and take a .243 before that. the .270 is a good deer round, but i dont care for them. in my world i guess i feel bigger is always better. carry on this is a great subject with lots of varation
this is one of the better topics we have had here in while i think. |
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They call me "Boots"
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Smokey53119
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In the internet forum world you can always tell that hunting season is coming when you see the "best bullet for deer hunting with the .223 remington" threads appears. Usually provides lots of contrasting opinions :)
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Bigdaddy0381
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I use H1000 for 100gr sp's and varget for 95gr bergers and smaller.
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SVT_Tactical
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We talking about .243 not .223 Thats a different can of worms.
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pyro6999
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no doubt there g |
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They call me "Boots"
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308 Sav
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Back on topic.
In the Hogdon 2010 manual there is Varget under every bullet in there. IMR 4350 is in all but the 58 g V Max. And there are a few for RL-15 |
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pyro6999
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They call me "Boots"
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Bigdaddy0381
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I use H1000 for 100gr and varget for the 95 bergers. Its floored me on how close in weight the bullets are adn the poweers wouldn't work with the other (like I wanted them to)
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Lutefisk
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I have the same Savage you are considering, but different optics (Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x). I've had it for about 3 months. Some folks have an issue with the Accutrigger, but I really like it. I think the let off is at least as clean as with an out-of-the-box 700 (yeah, I know, heresy). The gun shoots far better than I do though I haven't found the "exactly right" bullet for it yet. I've been shooting the 95gr Combined Tech (Nosler) usually with H4350 or R-22 (Nosler's original recommendation) and the 100gr Sierra Gameking with either H4350 or IMR 4064. I can usually get 2 bullets out of 3 covered with a dime at 100yds, but always have one "flyer" about 1-1.5" away. Not sure if it's the gun, the bullets or the shooter...
I think you'll really enjoy the gun. Just remember that .243 barrels aren't known for their long lives...
John
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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1/2 inch group at 200 yds with the Winchester PowerMax 100 gr php. I bought some 85 gr Barnes TSX bullets and some brass today to try those. http://www.6mmbr.com/243Win.html found some possible load info on this page. I will probably load some of the light high speed bullets to try them also.
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ccoker
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my old Sako l579 likes 45g (MAX!) load of IMR 4831 and the 85 TSX
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Stevey
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I like .243 105 Hornady Amax's in my .243 Win with R22 power and WLR primers. Hornady claims the 6mm 105 Amax will work with 1-9 twist. I get about 3000 fps with a 26 inch 1-8 twist barrel and this is good way out there. Too bad 105 grain Amax's are not easy to buy. For those having 1-10 twist .243's the 95 grain Sierra .243 MK might work. The little .243 Win might be based on a .308 case but it is necked down considerably and that makes slow burning powders like R22 work well with relatively heavy bullets (over 100 grains).
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mpk
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I've been happy with the 80 gr TTSX and 45 gr of H4350. After fine tuning the seating (.060" off the lands) it's wicked accurate in my sako 75.
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308 Sav
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Wow don't need anything else then. Got yourself a shooter.
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