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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

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Another major failure on my part… I have no 30-30...


Don't log back on until you fix that..... a Henry maybe?


Probably my first choice… or a good Winchester 94
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I have sighted in a friends Mark V in .257 Wby and I loved that gun. If the gun in question is a Mark V and the price is right I would buy it.
Neither caliber is popular and since this is for hunting, I would not worry price or availability. Both will be expensive and not in the average store. 
If the caliber and gun is still in question I would get the .264 for the reasons already stated. The .264 has far better sectional densities available than the .257. This will help a lot with "bucking the wind" and terminal performance given bullets of equal construction. I use 140 grain in a .260 and it is a sledge hammer on deer sized game.
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Git a 270....

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i have a hunting buddy that has hunted with a 264 for a long time. if you saw all the trouble he has had finding bullets over the years ,you would not even consider it without reloading. the last ones he bought were $60 a box for regular shells. if you got to have a magnum get a 7mm rem like i have. but i still rather hunt  with a 270. i just hunt whitetail deer and coyotes,longest shots i take are less than 500 yards. i use the walmart rule for calibers. they have to be available at walmart.
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WalMart is too much trouble to go to for ammo. I mean, I can just sit here and have it sent to my door. I don't even buy clothes in person anymore. The grocery store, hardware and feed n seed pretty much account for my in person shopping.
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I remember the Good Olde Days when ANYBODY could buy bullets at a gas station if you had the spare change....


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Might consider the WSM's too.  The .270 WSM is flat shooting with moderate recoil.  They are available in some fairly light weight rifles, ideal for covering distance on foot.
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I have a .270 Winchester which is my dedicated deer rifle.
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I was at the local gun store looking at a 25-06 when I saw a used Weatherby Mark V in .257 with exhibition grade stock. I was using the hunt as an excuse to purchase another rifle. Since I had a 25-06 rifle built for my nephew I was looking at the same caliber.
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I would like to thank everyone for your input. The Weatherby Mark V Deluxe with exhibition grade stock was made in 2009. I contacted Weatherby about building another one. They gave me a delivery time of 12 months and a cost of $3000 to $3200. I could buy a Winchester Model 70 Supergrade or Remington 700 and have it bedded in an upgraded stock.  
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and opinions. The Weatherby .257 is no longer available. Someone just purchased a very nice rifle. I hope he really enjoys it. I will be purchasing a .264 win mag. I plan on shooting Barnes TTSX or Nosler BT hunter in 100gr or 120gr. Maybe I will load some Nosler partition in 100gr or 125gr.
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I would suggest loading the Hornady 143 gr ELD-X instead. Better ballistic performance at distance due to far superior BC. Brings out all the potential the .264 Win Mag is capable of. I’ve had great luck getting them to shoot well out of all my rifles too.

I would also suggest the Badlands Precision 125 gr 6.5 Bulldozer as well. They are made by 2 of our fellow OT members. Excellent quality bullets!
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I was thinking of a lighter bullet traveling at high velocity would be great for antelope. While the 140 range bullets would be great for deer.
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I looked at Badlands Precision Bulldoxer 125gr in .264. However, their website states it should be used in a barrel with a 1-8 twist. The Winchester Model 70 comes with a 1-9 twist. I am not sure of the Remington. 
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The Remington 700 Sendero SF II also has a 1-9 twist barrel.
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I think Whale has finally decided on a 30-30....







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Sorry Son of Ed,
Never had a 30-30 and I will probably will never have one. I just purchased a .264 Win Mag from Gunbroker.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

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I was thinking of a lighter bullet traveling at high velocity would be great for antelope. While the 140 range bullets would be great for deer.


In this case velocity at distance pretty quickly overtakes the lighter bullets you name due to significantly superior BC. Remember, MUZZLE velocity isn’t what’s important. You don’t do any killing at the muzzle. It’s the velocity when the bullet arrives on target that matters. Higher BC retains velocity better due to more slippery, more aerodynamic shape. The .264 has a lot of case capacity to still drive heavier bullets at relatively high velocity. Use the case capacity to your advantage. One of the main advantage to 6.5mm is that there are so many ballistically efficient bullets available in that caliber, due to the popularity of new 6.5 cartridges like 6.5 Creed. This fact brings new life to the .264 WM. Why handicap all that case capacity from the start by using bullets that start fast but run out of steam too quickly?

The rifle manufacturers have been slow to get with modern times with regard to barrel twist, and it’s pretty frustrating. Since .264 WM was created before modern ballistically efficient bullets were created, too many rifles so chambered have 9 and 10 twists. I wouldn’t let that sway me from trying the bullets I mentioned. Worse case, you may not get the best accuracy with the longer bullets, but it’s worth a try; sometimes they still shoot well in slightly too slow a twist.
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Especially if you have they ability to dive them fast! Try the 140s, I wouldn't go much lighter than 120s.
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Actually, the 30-30 is a DEADLY cartridge for deer or antelope within 100 yards.....





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