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Anyone loading this powder with a 308? Going to load some 165 gr hornady SPBT's for hunting. 

Data from Hodgdon is starting 45.4 at 2649 FPS, up to 48.3 at 2839 fps.

Where would you start? 

Gun 1 is Remington 700 Tactical Model
Gun 2 is Ruger Hawkeye with 16.5 in barrel.
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I would start at the bottom with both and work up for each rifle.
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How much increase ! Like .5 grain? Think that is what I did long time ago.

Both guns are 1 in 10 twist.
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    slow and easy..
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Would like to know how the powder performed and were there any problems?
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I'm going to have to try it sometime. I've used Varget forever but while it meters okay I've always been impressed with how consistent spherical powders meter. The 4-5% increased velocity is a plus too, especially as I'm hunting more with a 16" barrel.
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BLC-2 is also a great ball powder for 223 and .308.  CFE 223 is right next to it on the burn rate chart.  I have used it in .223 for many years, loading thousands of them with it. 
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The reason I asked about problems with CFE223 is that I tried it in the 308Win, and had a strange problem. After a while I noted that it was getting harder to close the bolt with a live round. It was a progressive problem rather than an abrupt occurrence as one would expect if the brass was too long. I cleaned the gun and the rounds that I could not chamber well chambered with no problem. It was as if the powder was causing fouling of the throat or chamber. Never experienced that before. I was testing all copper bullets. Was getting good groups and excellent velocities. I switched to Leverevolution, and this problem never happened again. Velocities with Lvr were just as good and accuracy has been excellent to the point that it has become my favorite powder in the 308Win. There are published data in the 338 Federal for Lvr but not the 308Win, but the burn rate is slower than CFE, so one can use the lower charge weights quoted for CFE223 in the 308Win and work up. We consistently see 0.5-0.75 MOA accuracy out to 500 yards with both 308Win rifles that I have. WLRM primers also gave me the most consistent MVs. Word of caution, Lvr does not work well in in 7mm-08.
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I love Varget for both .223 and .308. 
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