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wow, I go on vacation for a week and the thread takes off!! that's awesome. I really appreciate all the input. 
I went to the range last friday, and perfected my load down to 43.4 grains of Varget with the 175 SMK at OAL of 2.8, I do not have a chronograph yet, I know I know, I really need one. I was surprised that at 43.2 grains my group opened up to 1.2 moa, where as my 43.4 is holding right at .78moa, which I believe most of that is shooter error. I'm going to my 1000 meter range in the next week or two and see if I can do anything with the round. 
So I bought a scope and changed it out before I went to the range, I changed from a vortex viper 6.5-20 which was a SFP with mil/moa adjustments and changed to a Falcon Menace 5.5-25 FFP mil/mil with a TPS 20 moa scope base and burris xtreme tactical rings. I have never written a review before, but I was thinking about writing one for the scope because there aren't a lot of a reviews for a falcon menace. Yall think I should write one? or leave it to the pros?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Savage11B Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/12/2012 at 11:58
oh and I'm using both win and federal brass, I annealed all of my cases as soon as I buy them and then I will every 5 rounds fired. I'm tumbling them in corn cob, then neck sizing only, but will full length every 5 shots fired as well, I;m cleaning primer pockets every time, resizing and dechamphering (or however you spell that) and then priming with federal large rifle (should I change to benchrest? what's the true difference?) and then weighing every round and no variance with powder, it has to be right on the mark. anything else I should be doing? again, I'm not in competitions yet, but would like to at some point. 
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We always compete against ourselves.

With reloading goes the excuse of its the ammo.
 
So your challenges(personal) will get harder as you get better at reloading.
 
It sounds like you are on your way...
 
 
 
 
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Might notice some improvements on accuracy if you jumped the powder charge up a bit, between 44 and 45 grains.  You're not going to see any problems at this charge.
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I actually tried a 44.5 and 45 grain load with the 175's and was not happy with it, it was holding at about .95 and 1.0 moa, and this was with my initial load development, so it was all in the same day with same barrel temp on each individual load. and wind was not an issue. where as the 168's I tested were at .69 moa with 45.2 grains of varget. So I think my barrel just likes a lower powder with the 175's. 
I'm curious to hear some other peoples recipes for 308, varmint, long range or whatever.. please share, unless it's a family secret. :)
mine is:
Rem/Fed brass
Federal 200 large rifle primers
SMK 175 grain
43.4 Grains of varget
with an OAL of 2.8 inches +-.002
Used for: Accuaracy
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Maybe so.

My recipe :

45gr of Varget
175 Berger OTM
Lapua Brass
Fed 210 Primers

Sub .5 MOA

You should be putting up 1/2 MOA with that gun.


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Originally posted by The Surgeon The Surgeon wrote:

Maybe so.

My recipe :

45gr of Varget
175 Berger OTM
Lapua Brass
Fed 210 Primers

Sub .5 MOA

You should be putting up 1/2 MOA with that gun.


I'm running almost the same load...only difference is I've been able to squeeze in 45.5 gr. Varget (with the usual cautions to test this by working up!) and I use CCI BR2 primers. I think two factors that benefit accuracy are: running a load compressed or close because there's no powder shift in the cartridge. And using consistent, quality brass. I'm not saying Lapua is the only way to go, but I wouldn't expect great results with a mixture of brands.
Reaction time is a factor...
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I run the 190 SMK at the Sierra Book max load of Varget.

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Iknow Im answering late to this Thread ...  Im need to this forum. ..
I been reloading for the last few months and ive been thorough a couple of loads and bullet for different range. i didnt hit the 1000yard yet, but ive been able to pull a pretty nice grouping at 100yards with 41gn benchmark and 175 lapua scenar-l. in lapua casings and cciBR2 primers.... 0.084 x 0.120 inch 5 shots in the same hole... speed goes to 2688fps with a magnetospeed.  varget powder will push further as it does less drop 100yards further compared to benchmark. but i need to stay under 42.2 gr for maximum accuracy.  etting to try Berger OTM tactical juggernault 185gr soon. Ill post my results :)
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Originally posted by Andre Andre wrote:

Iknow Im answering late to this Thread ...  Im new to this forum. ..
I been reloading for the last few months and ive been thorough a couple of loads and bullet for different range. i didnt hit the 1000yard yet, but ive been able to pull a pretty nice grouping at 100yards with 41gn benchmark and 175 lapua scenar-l. in lapua casings and cciBR2 primers.... 0.084 x 0.120 inch 5 shots in the same hole... speed goes to 2688fps with a magnetospeed.  varget powder will push further as it does less drop 100yards further compared to benchmark. but i need to stay under 42.2 gr for maximum accuracy.  etting to try Berger OTM tactical juggernault 185gr soon. Ill post my results :)
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