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    Posted: November/08/2008 at 15:55
Take a look at the Hornady web site, new and official will be a .338 marlin express and the 416 Ruger, its a proud day for "Squeezer"

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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

Take a look at the Hornady web site, new and official will be a .338 marlin express and the 416 Ruger, its a proud day for "Squeezer"
...........YES!!! I like it.....Well boys!... A new "Squeezer Special" is apparently on the horizon? Yippee The new .416 Ruger from Hornady will be added to Ruger`s 20" Alaskan line!! What a handy, dandy, shoulder stimulating, big bear, caped buff and elephant buster canon that`ll be for all you bigger bore fans!!.....Heavy%20Recoil
 
I think we all knew that Hornady/Ruger would eventually neck up the 375 Ruger case. Ya think?
 
As always, when Ruger and Hornady get together!!! ExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellent
 
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Hornady is really putting out alot of inovative new products for 2009, sure makes it fun and interesting.  For 2009 I just might have to put together a ruger .416 with a Bushnell 1.25-8 6500 scope, now that sounds like fun!
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

Hornady is really putting out alot of inovative new products for 2009, sure makes it fun and interesting.  For 2009 I just might have to put together a ruger .416 with a Bushnell 1.25-8 6500 scope, now that sounds like fun!
..............YOU CAN`T DO THAT!!!!..... Hey! I want to be the only one here on this forum that owns a Ruger Alaskan!!..375 Ruger or otherwise!!! Dammit!!..Laugh.............It`s a crappy rifle; don`t buy one!!!..Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing........ClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClownClown
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You can be, I want the .416 not the wimpy .375.Poker
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

You can be, I want the .416 not the wimpy .375.Poker
.................Very funny!........Big%20GrinBig%20GrinBig%20Grin..........You`ll have better short range stoppin power, but I`ll have the flatter shootin, longer range capability AND enough short range stoppin power as well if needed!!......NA..NA..NA..NA..NA..NA.....Mooner...............Laugh
 
BTW! An 8x max on a 416??? A little much there??...........Yikes
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Ok, maybe a Trijicon Accupoint would be better.

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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

Ok, maybe a Trijicon Accupoint would be better.

..............Better! But the 1.25x4`s Trij`s tube length might be a little too short, unless you use offsets. 3x9 Trijee too much. Trijicon needs a straight tuber without an obj. bell.
 
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Hey squeeze. Dont forget that .416 can be loaded with a 300gr Barnes TSX and get a pretty decent trajectory as well. Cartridge looks like a winner to me.
 
 
Oh yea, Im new here, nice place. Im just a run of the mill, lightweight recoil junky. I found this place finding more info on the new .416 Ruger. I was first reasing about the wildcat here http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/RS_wildcatting_200806/  I wont own a rifle without Magnum in the name Bandito , so this one really intrigues me.
 
 I've told my gun dealer, as soon as one of the .416's come available at one of his distributors, that I want one. Now I wait.
 
You are saying a 3-9 might be too much for a .416 ? How so, not enough eye relief, or more zoom than it needs for it's range ?
 
By the way, I plan to hunt Virginia whitetails with mine just to see what happens.
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Originally posted by tang419 tang419 wrote:

Hey squeeze. Dont forget that .416 can be loaded with a 300gr Barnes TSX and get a pretty decent trajectory as well. Cartridge looks like a winner to me.
 
 
Oh yea, Im new here, nice place. Im just a run of the mill, lightweight recoil junky. I found this place finding more info on the new .416 Ruger. I was first reasing about the wildcat here http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/RS_wildcatting_200806/  I wont own a rifle without Magnum in the name Bandito , so this one really intrigues me.
 
 I've told my gun dealer, as soon as one of the .416's come available at one of his distributors, that I want one. Now I wait.
 
You are saying a 3-9 might be too much for a .416 ? How so, not enough eye relief, or more zoom than it needs for it's range ?
 
By the way, I plan to hunt Virginia whitetails with mine just to see what happens.
............................SO! You want a .416 Ruger uh???? Like my 375 Ruger, it doesn`t have the word "magnum" at the end of it! Are you sure you can you handle that???Big Grin.............They are crappy cartridges and those Ruger Alaskans are crappy rifles!! Don`t buy one!!!!.Protest.....ClownClownClownClownClownClownClown........Around here? Reserved for Squeezer only!!!..Laugh.......Roll on Floor Laughing.........
 
Virginia whitetails with a .416? Hmmm! Well, hopefully you`ll include a hunting trip to big bear, big bison country or maybe to Africa someday????????
 
Yes, imo a 3x9 is way too much scope for a any 416, or even any 375 for that matter! More magnification than is needed. It`s not so much the eye relief even though that is still a concern. It is instead and more importantly, the FOV (lack of it with a 3x9) and the acquisition and aiming speed necessary for quick follow up shots. The only 3x9 that would work fine for a DGR in the speed dept is the (both eyes open capable) Trijicon Accupoint.
 
On any dangerous game rifle (DGR), it is not a real good idea to mount a slower scope where the non-aiming eye has to be squinted or closed, as well as offer a narrower FOV. Doing so increases the time to the target by slowing down the signals to the shooter`s brain, therby increasing the reaction time for acquiring, aiming and firing.
 
The 1.5-5x20 VX3 with wider FOV`s mounted on my 375 Ruger Alaskan is very fast, by offering fast both eyes open acquiring and aiming on the low end power for moving game or otherwise. Also, it is more than sufficient at 5x on the high end for precision shots on deer, elk sized game and larger plains game out to 300-350 yards.
 
Even with a Barnes 300 gr. TSX, the 416`s cannot shoot as flat as the 375`s do and I wouldn`t consider a 416 to be as good a 300 to 350 yard round. However! I`m NOT stating here that it cannot be done. For my preference, the 416`s are not as good in the flat shooting dept to suit me for the longer distance work.
 
A 375 with the right bullet, can shoot as flat as a 270 Win, is flatter shootin than the 180 gr. `06 and hits much harder than both when it gets there!!....From "gunblast.com" dated 2/6/07, that`s a Jeff Quinn quote from his rifle review of the 375 Ruger African.
 
For your use, (ON VIRGINIA WHITETAILShocked), if you don`t already have a 375, why not consider that first before a 416?............. 
 
 
 
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I very well might get a .375. I'm a .300 Win Mag junky. I have a M77 MkII stainless (polished to a mirror), wearing a Hogue Overmold stock. Very fun gun. Regularlly shoots .5"-.7" 3 shot groups. So the thoughts of another Ruger rifle lights my fire :D
 
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Squeezer, your wish for new AccuPoints may come true soon. One looks like a 1-4 with 30mm tube.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=242801&posted=1#post242801

I couldn't find any specs on-line but I'm sure they'll be shown at the upcoming Shot Show..




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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Squeezer, your wish for new AccuPoints may come true soon. One looks like a 1-4 with 30mm tube.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=242801&posted=1#post242801

I couldn't find any specs on-line but I'm sure they'll be shown at the upcoming Shot Show..


........I see!!! I see!!!..........With no objective bell either for longer a mounting tube length. Its about damn time from Trijicon....... After it comes out for sale, I`ll check the specs out. More than likely, as most 30mm`s do, it`ll weigh in at about 15 to 17 oz, almost double over what my 1.5-5x20 VX3 is @ 9.5 oz. I`m not too keen with more scope or overall rifle weight....I`ll wait and see.
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Originally posted by tang419 tang419 wrote:

I very well might get a .375. I'm a .300 Win Mag junky. I have a M77 MkII stainless (polished to a mirror), wearing a Hogue Overmold stock. Very fun gun. Regularlly shoots .5"-.7" 3 shot groups. So the thoughts of another Ruger rifle lights my fire :D
 
What can I say, I have an Elmer Keith way of thinking. Never ben under-gunned Cool
.......................AHHHH!.....I don`t teeeeenk you`ll be under gunned using a 375 Ruger for Virginia whitetails!!!.........Bazooka
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Hornady has been making excellent ammo for a long time. I signed up for their updates a few years back and I get far more from them than the Big Three.
Steve Hornady is doing hunters a big service with their developments.
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Hats off to Ruger too for creating new rifles to chamber those new innovative Hornady cartridges. Now, Marlin has recently worked with Hornady as well to create the new 338 Marlin Express in a new and powerful Marlin lever.
 
Any rifle maker that teams up with Hornady to create an even better innovative product, has my attention!
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Hey Squeeze. I just got an email back from Ruger. Look for the .416 in early 2009.
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Originally posted by tang419 tang419 wrote:

Hey Squeeze. I just got an email back from Ruger. Look for the .416 in early 2009.
.....................My .375 Ruger Alaskan is all that I`ll ever need, but the 416 Ruger in that same 20" Alaskan rifle will be sweet handling and a boomin sweetheart.Excellent
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Here's a commercial for the 416 Ruger.
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