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I think Kimber and Leupold have some sort of business deal going, because you never see a Kimber with any other brand of scope mounted on it in their ads.
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somebody has a good eye at both of those companies, cause they do look great together, to bad for kimber, leupold cant hold up to the same standard

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I remember back when the Kimber rifles first came out, Leupold made a scope labeled Kimber for them. Those two companies were just a stone's throw from each other in those days. Smile  --Ed
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true, im sure that had something to do with it. but still a sharp combo
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Despite all the "cheesecake" photos and that "sexy" gold ring stuff.....My absolute favorite scope is the conquest 3.5x10x44. The leupold might look sexier.....but the conquest will flat outperform it in hunting conditions. Better glass, better reticle, faster focus, and constant eye relief. Look thru both before you decide......

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Slick, in South Africa light or should I say the lack of light is hardly ever a problem. Our winters are clear sunny blue sky. We also mostly hunt from sun-up untill half and hour before sunset. This is in case you wound an animal and some follow-up work is required. Having said that you can be unlucky and encounter rain or overcast weather, especially if you are hunting in the southern parts of South Africa. Poor light can be a problem then.
I personally hunt with a 3,5-10x40, which gives ideal versatility. Most South Africans have the 2,5-9 or so, with either a 40mm or 50mm objective.
I personally go for the 40mm objective, because I do a lot of quick shooting and carrying of my rifle. Weight and bulk must be kept at a minimum.
I have never lacked in scope power  or lack of light on a hunt.
What brand or make? Well depends on your pocket. Mostly the conditions are pretty comfortable and with care a robust scope is not needed.
Obviously you must decide if you are buying the scope only for South Africa or for use back home.
I only use the 3,5 setting for follow-up work and snap shooting in thicker bush. Something you would probably not do on your hunt in South Africa. I doubt if the 0.5X on the lower end would be an issue. The 9x versus 10x on the big end is noticeable. On open plains game you will wish for the 10x.


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Quote The 9x versus 10x on the big end is noticeable. On open plains game you will wish for the 10x.


The 1x difference will be noticed at the range when shooting for groups or doing load work-up. Don't seem that big a deal but it is.

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With regards to scope magnification and group size???????..........Go to shootingtimes.com and then click on "optics!" The very first article you see is "Magnification and Group Size."  In that article, the author talks about the differences in 100 yard group sizes using a 1.5x, a 6x and a 35x!! Realistically, between a 9x and 10x, there shouldn`t be any difference in the group sizing at 100 yards, or even 200 yards for that matter!......... Without going back and reading it again, if I`m not mistaken, the difference between either the 1.5x or the 6x vs the 35x,,, was only a 1/4" in group size!!! Not that much difference going from the lower powers all the up to the 35x!!.................The true differences between a 3x9, a 2.5x10, a 3.5x10 and so on, for accuracy purposes, are extremely negligible to say the very least!!
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I agree with you Big Squeeze. In fact, the facts from a Bisley shoot also speaks volumes. I have read an article where this guy tabulates the total scores as shot by a group using iron sights against those using any telescopic sights. The group in the "iron sights only" scored just as well as the scoped group.
However, when hunting the target becomes a bit more difficult to see, in other words it is not a black circle on a white paper. This is where optics clarity and magnification helps.
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Thanks for all the great input.  After seeing all the input, I think the best bang for the buck for me is going to be the 3-9X40 with the RapidZ reticle.  Looks like I can get this for a little over $500, vs +$700 for the 3.5-10X44 with the same reticle.  From what I am seeing, the 3.5-10 does not seem to have all that much more to offer for the extra price.
 
From what I have read, it seems like the RapidZ reticle performs 'as advertised', anyone had any negitive experiences with this?
 
Thanks again, this is a great forum.  I am glad I found it.
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Originally posted by Slick Slick wrote:

Thanks for all the great input.  After seeing all the input, I think the best bang for the buck for me is going to be the 3-9X40 with the RapidZ reticle.  Looks like I can get this for a little over $500, vs +$700 for the 3.5-10X44 with the same reticle.  From what I am seeing, the 3.5-10 does not seem to have all that much more to offer for the extra price.
 
From what I have read, it seems like the RapidZ reticle performs 'as advertised', anyone had any negitive experiences with this?
 
Thanks again, this is a great forum.  I am glad I found it.
 
i think you will be very happy!
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You are correct Ed, his name is Marvin
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is pondering the same 2 also
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