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I got a hankering for a .38 super. Dan wesson guardian or kimber eclipse?
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Dan Wesson of those two. Or depending on your budget. A Les Baer would be a good choice. Or you could also look for a used Les Baer.

So why 38 Super?
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Just always wanted one, i like 9mm caliber and having one that shoots a 147 grain 1200ish would be fun. . I have a 45 1911 may as well try a different caliber.

I looked at several colts today. None of them really got me though

I would love a baer, but $2500ish is to much. I don't want to buy used. Used is often some one elses problem gun they got rid of.

I really want a wilson, but some of them are pushing $4000. Crazy
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How about a colt competition
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Win 38 Super +P   FMJ   130 gr  1215 fps 426 ft Lbs

Win 40 S&W JHP  155 gr    1205 fps  500 ft lbs energy

38 Super is Not a path I would choose to go down. Why not go 10mm  at least your should be able to find ammo for it.
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Its a heavier bullet, so of course it will have more energy. Those energy numbers mean little anyway especially on a handgun. Plus factory 38 super ammo is loaded weak. Starline makes brass so finding ammo will never be an issue.

I may go 9mm. Just not finding what i want in 38.
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You should be able to get a nice Kimber in a 9mm  I saw a used one at West Des Moines Scheels that was bright nickle in a subcompact version that was only made for a short time a couple years ago.  Really nice little 9mm.



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There's some kimber tle 2 tfs models on gunbroker for $1000. Threaded barrel suppressor sights. That would give me an excuse to buy a 9mm suppressor too :)
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Tanfoglio Witness Elite Stock III is worth a look. I love 1911s, this to me is better. Fits hand great, smooth as silk, just need better sights.

https://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-elite-stock-iii-tanfoglio-46
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I have been looking at the eaa. I need to get my hands on one to see how it feels. They get great reviews for sure
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I would try it if you could. Bought a 10mm after the 38...it's like an improved 1911....
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So they are da/sa but can be carried cocked and locked? Is the only safety the thumb safety? It doesn't look like a grip safety is there.
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CZ75 too.

My daily carry is the STI 9mm I had all kinda problems with about 1.5 years ago. Probably a few thousand rounds down the pipe now and it is smooth and easy shooting.

Since I got the STI running well, the Blackhawk has only been out of the safe a time or 2. I am a 45 guy by history but 15-20 rounds of 9mm +P in one mag is a nice thing.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Just always wanted one, i like 9mm caliber and having one that shoots a 147 grain 1200ish would be fun. . I have a 45 1911 may as well try a different caliber.

 I don't want to buy used. Used is often some one elses problem gun they got rid of.

I really want a wilson, but some of them are pushing $4000. Crazy


How about a 1911 in 357Sig? That would exceed 1200 with 147gn and a 5 inch barrel. One of the LGS has a Sig 1911 Nightmare in 357Sig for About $1000.

I wouldn't be concerned about a used Wilson Combat. They will take care of you no matter how many people have owned it. I have a Wilson Combat Classic that I bought used and got it for a steal. Looked like new and never been shot. But I had an issue with it not locking back on an empty mag all the time. Called Wilson and they sent me a prepaid shipping label, arranged to have it picked up and I had it back in either three or four days. My only inconvenience was I had to make a phone call and box it up. They did the rest.

Just found out something about Dan Wesson's. A buddy was looking at one until he found out they only have a 5 year warranty. That was a problem for him.

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Originally posted by supertool73 Those energy numbers mean little anyway especially on a handgun. <br><br>I may go 9mm. Just not finding what i want in 38. [/QUOTE supertool73 Those energy numbers mean little anyway especially on a handgun.

I may go 9mm. Just not finding what i want in 38. [/QUOTE wrote:




Energy numbers mean little??

I purchased a Springfield Loaded in 9mm and at some point is going to Wilson Combat for trigger wo


Energy numbers mean little??

I purchased a Springfield Loaded in 9mm and at some point is going to Wilson Combat for trigger work and a match barrel plus a few other options. That will give me a very nice shooting 1911 in 9mm.
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I think his point is that energy numbers are a part of a much bigger whole (not hole, pun would have been intended.). I agree, there is more to stopping than energy, but it is a big part of the conversation.

Bullet design has come a long way in the past 10 years.
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My meaning was the diff between 425 and 500 especially in a round that is going so slow to have little to no hydrostatic shock, means little. Poking a hole in an organ is the goal with a handgun and 9mms have proven to penetrate just as deep and most other defensive caliber rounds. With a defensive caliber handgun hitting your target where you should is much more important than whether i have a 9 or 40 caliber bullet.

Thats what i meant and i know you all know that as well. If we were talking rifle rounds and shooting big game things are different.
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Well i think i am going to go for a Dan Wesson valor in 9mm. A bit more than i was planning on spending, but they sound real nice.
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Buddy of mine has a Valor with the black finish. It's a very well made pistol with terrific fit and finish and a superb trigger.
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The only issue I am finding with the Valor is it does not have an ambidextrous safety.  I like to practice with my support hand and would prefer that.

The only one I can see that they make that has ambidextrous is the Specialist, but then it has a rail on the bottom which means I would have to buy new holsters.

decisions decisions. 

I am kinda liking the Valor V bob too.  Anyone got a 1911 that has the bobbed frame to help in concealment?


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A few friends of mine have the bobbed frame and think it helps with concealment. But they don't like to shoot it a lot since for them the bobbed frame digs into their hand.
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How does it dig into the hand?  Would it be the little point on the grip where it starts to bob, possibly hitting the meat of the palm?
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I have a Colt Lightweight Commander in .38 Super.  It's a blast to shoot.
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With the proper holster, I have not found concealment to be an issue, even with a full size frame. Then again, I am a man-sized fella, which helps too.

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