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     yes, it was shipped back quite some time ago now and a refund issued. i guess the vendor whose name gets translated to "competitor" had a policy of  "being painted voids the warranty".  they reconsidered.
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This scope has yet to be returned to us.  I informed the team to look for a camo-painted scope.  I still want to understand root cause of the issue.
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    well, having made a good faith effort to hear your side i'm going to have to go with my own "root cause" of the problem. ............"made in china". here let me just put down this scent trail.

          leatherwood hi-lux
  
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Its kinda hard for him to figure out without having the scope to figure it out with.
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    am i being hasty? 
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no your are being judgemental on anything made in china by saying thats the root cause of all failures. 

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   having a little trouble with the "all" part of that but i think i will own it anyway. in my own defense i would like to point out i was open minded enough to try one in the first place, kind of in keeping with the point kickboxer was making about "sheeple". i came here and stated my personal experience with this scope. this forum seems like the appropriate place to share that experience . now that the general consensus is that though i may be a jerk i'm not a troll and i seem to have a genuine "perceived " problem. for all i know "competitor" is holding the scope to review whether they even want to continue carrying the line (like i suggested). bottom line is i mailed off $130.00 not expecting to awful much but got crap. if there had been some plausible explanation for the poor quality of my scope i would have requested posting of the product endorsement/ mission statement  printed on the bottom of the box for comparison. it is what it is.
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I do not think you should condemn Chinese scopes based on this one sample.  In all fairness, there are a lot of junkie scopes coming out of China, but there are also (especially recently) quite a few that are better than decent.  I know a lot of people who avoid buying Chinese manufactured products for political reasons and they make a good point.  However, that is a different point entirely.

I do not know why Leatherwood has not been able to do proper FA on your scope, but that is not my point (and none of my business).

I am merely taking an issue with you making broad-based conclusions based on a sample of one.

That having been said, I reviewed two Leatherwood scopes (you can find the reviews on my website), and while I did not like the execution too much, both held up just fine as far as holding zero is concerned.

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Stonefly,

  I agree, you have made a good faith effort to hear our side.  You indeed have the right to your opinion.  I will simply say that your scope has yet to be returned for us to "root cause".  I have folks in Oklahoma and California very interested in seeing this optic.  Especially since this particular scope is a very, very low return item.

  I regret your negative experience, but I cannot give you an answer when I don't have the scope in my hands.

  Once the scope arrives, I will gladly post the root cause results.

  That said, I'd like to provide you some reference of what some other customers have told us about this product over the past few years:


July 12, 2010 John in Californa wrote:
Believe it or not, I mounted one of these scopes on my T/C Hawken with Leupold rings and mount. Lots of people looked at me funny at the range. It has a Green Mountain LRH barrel and shoots like a dream. (rated 5 out of 5)

June 19, 2010 J. Swartz wrote:
Great Scope.  Doesn't come with mounting rings. (rated 4 out of 5)

August 21, 2006 Joe in NY wrote:
 I mounted this scope on a lever action 45-70. I also have the Leupold EER 2.5X "scout" scope. The Leatherwood has comparable brightness and clarity. The crosshair center lines (thin) are not quite as crisp as the Leupold, but perfectly acceptable. The scope sighted in easy, adjusted true and held its point of impact. The point of impact was also constant through the 2 X 7 power range. It withstood 100 rounds of heavy Buffalo Bore ammo with no problems. This is a great value. If it proves as durable in the field as well as weatherproof I will come back to re-rate it a 5. (rated 4 out of 5)


Best Regards,

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Last weekend I bought the Leatherwood Hi-Lux Camputer ART M-1000 at a awsome price.
I mounted it and today boresighted it.
I highly recommend it to anyone. And it shoots great at 100-200 yards with and without the A.R.T engaged. The target below shows me useing windage to walk it in at 200 yards, STARTING AT UPPER RIGHT 1400 POS and walking it in to last 6 rounds useing Ferderal American 55 grain in 13-18 mph wind.
 
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[QUOTE=tankrat]Last weekend I bought the Leatherwood Hi-Lux Camputer ART M-1000 at a awsome price.
I mounted it and today boresighted it.
I highly recommend it to anyone. And it shoots great at 100-200 yards with and without the A.R.T engaged. The target below shows me useing windage to walk it in at 200 yards, STARTING AT UPPER RIGHT 1400 POS and walking it in to last 6 rounds useing Ferderal American 55 grain in 13-18 mph wind.
 
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Very good shooting there.  Welcome to the OT, btw.  What are the details on that rifle?  Nice looking rig.  
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Hello Randy, 

Well, we never received that camo painted LER 2-7 scope.  And, due the "competitor" word replacing the name of the store you returned it to, I don't know who to call and ask for it.  

Therefore, I need a little help, if you are willing.

First, when we initially conversed, you mentioned more than once that you received a refund from the store you purchased from, however, upon re-reading the 28 Sept. post, I noticed that you said they "reconsidered" because you painted the scope.  Does that mean that you did not get a refund after all?  And, if they didn't give you a refund, did they give you the scope back?

I have sent an email to your sbcglobal email account, but don't know if it is still active. 

Lastly, if email is not working, please call the desk at: 1 (888) 445-8912 and leave the best number for me to reach you and I'll give you call.  Please let the person who answers the phone know the call is for me, and that it is about the painted scope with the reticle issue.  

I know it has been some time since the issue, but I want you to know that I've not forgotten it.  The scope just never did come in, so I'd like to work with you on making sure A) you were taken care of from a refund standpoint, and B) that we figure out what happened with that reticle.

I hope to hear from you. 

Sincerely,

Corbett 

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Now, THAT is customer support.

Kudos to Leatherwood for wanting to track the problem down.

ILya
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yeah i agree, i had forgot about this old thread
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I would defiantly say that is putting your money where your mouth is.  Mechanical things happen, no matter how carefully you QA/QC the product.  In my opinion, all you can ask for is for the company to take care of you when/if it does happen.  I am impressed!
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    corbett, good on you and e mail sent. at the time i dealt with the online store whose name would just be changed by optics talk to "competitor" if i typed it, i was told their policy was not to refund on a painted scope. i would have to confess that i was particularly persuasive at hearing this and the scope was refunded.  i doubt the arrival of this scope escaped their notice, more likely they were waiting for it.   
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BTW, the rifle looks like a POF.  Not sure on the model, but it has all the lines of a POF.  Nice looking stick!
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       corbett,
 got your phone message, not really too much to add.  i did just dig the insured mail receipt  out of my wallet.  maybe we can track it down yet.
               randy
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Hey Randy,

  Thanks for the follow up.  I was able to track the scope to its location from our weekend conversation.  I've already got a team contacting that location to see if we can retrieve that scope.  I appreciate your assistance to help me track this one down.

Take care,

Corbett
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The Sporter is being retired, though it is still useable.  It will go in my study in memory of and out of respect for Jim Leatherwood....
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Yuanyelss - Thank you for your kind words.  We sure miss him.
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Originally posted by Leatherwood Leatherwood wrote:

Yuanyelss - Thank you for your kind words.  We sure miss him.
 
You misread his intent... those were my words, and he meant no respect. 
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    so,   kickboxer............ any news from the "cause celebre" side?
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Originally posted by stonefly stonefly wrote:

    so,   kickboxer............ any news from the "cause celebre" side?
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Here is an interesting review of an interesting new offering.  I would certainly like to try one out.  Is this what you are talking about stonefly? 
 
 
David Fortier's article "Scoping your Scout Rifle" compares the Burris 
2.75x Scout, Leupold's VX-II 1.5-4x28 and the Leatherwood / Hi-Lux 
Optics 2-7x32 LER (Long Eye Relief).  A very nice quote from the 
article...

"I let the two of them go toe to toe at 2X, 3X and 4X in bright light, 
overcast conditions and low light.  After staring far too long through 
these two optics, I have to say that the Hi-Lux not only stood toe to 
toe with the Leupold but gave as good as it got.  Frankly, I was very 
surprised as I expected the Leupold to smoke the Hi-Lux." (pg. 18, 
SHOTGUN News, March 21, 2011 by David Fortier)
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