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SVT_Tactical
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So a group buy over on the hide got me curious on these scopes. Its about the perfect mag range, keyword about. I'm still a firm believer that about 15 is all ya need. Anyway the ones offered in the group buy they have 5 mil turrets, that kinda seemed odd to me....... how bout yall? I did some digging and emailing to bushnell and found that the original ones did have the 5 mil turrets but they aren't sticking and the 10mil turret models will be piggybacking the release of these that came with 5mil very soon. I'm just baffled that bushnell would even design them with 5 mils and even before consumers get them change them knowing that the market demands 10mils.... seems to me a lot of wasted money.
I did get some new pictures from them.
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koshkin
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I've got one with 5mil per turn knobs lying around and it is a very nice scope. 10 mil per turn knobs should be even better, but I would be curious to see if the pop-up knobs work as well with finer clicks.
I hope they will have a few of these at SHOT. ILya
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billyburl2
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The guy that usually wins the Tac match that I go to, has switched all his rifles to this scope. In the past he has ran USO, IOR, a NightForce F1. He uses the H-59 reticle and holds for most of his shots. I have not had a chance to check it out, as the few times I have been able to shoot I was not in his squad.
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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Chris Farris
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That one looks a little different in regards to the slotted turret cap.
We have a few in stock now but all of ours are the old style 5 mils per rev design. Edited by Chris Farris - May/14/2012 at 13:20 |
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Kickboxer
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All you NEED is 6oz of lean meat per meal to provide all the protein your body requires... how much do YOU eat??? All you NEED is 5 mils per turn (for most hunting situations, especially sitting in a tree stand, that is more than adequate)... why do you (and the market) demand 10 mils??? |
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Chris Farris
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Mainly because this ain't no tree stand, huntin' scope.
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tahqua
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Okay that's it..No knobs for you!
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Kickboxer
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But that's the most use it will get...
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BeltFed
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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Rancid Coolaid
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Someone won a match with it, I'll take 5!
It is indeed a heavy thing, and I'm not sure what I think of the knobs, I'd have to play with them to say for sure. Christmas tree reticles are all the rage now, I really don't care much for them. I have a few and find myself reaching for something else, just too damn much clutter. To each his own. If I ever start shooting matches, maybe I'll make the switch.
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BeltFed
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Tactical matches- the next best thing to being on a 2-way range (where training is concerned, because there is nothing best about return fire).
On a side note, I finally saw a picture or a HORUS reticle in an artical in Shotgun News. Talk about a busy reticle.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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billyburl2
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http://azprc.net/default.aspx
This is the match, it is pretty fun little course of fire. And the wind is usually blowing about 20-25 mph. I really need to improve on my wind reads...
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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Kickboxer
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I didn't say that was the ONLY use it will get, just the MOST. What is the biggest shooting population? It's very difficult to make a living off just the tactical community... some makers that used to sell exclusively to military now say "tactical... but it's great for hunting, too". It's not surprising to me that an item touted for a particular use actually took the "requirements" of another population "accidentally" into consideration. Through marketing, movies, tv, etc, the hunting community is being "persuaded" that "tactical" is good for hunting. That's OK to me, I've always believed that. Therefore, I do not find it "remarkable" that an intial offering of a "tactical" item catered to a hunting population. Kind of like an AP Biology question... "ya take a red flyer and a white flyer and cross 'em together and ya' get a pink flyer" What's that process called?
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BeltFed
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I'm tickled that yanking a chain still works, and you made a valid point too.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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billyburl2
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But at the price of this scope, not many casual hunters are going to spring for it...Unless it gets on some hunting show...
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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Kickboxer
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Hybridization is the answer...
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BeltFed
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Did I just swallow the hook?
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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jonoMT
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I've run scopes with 13 mils per turn, 10 mils, 5 mils and 6 mils and hardly notice the difference. Unless your shooting requires a rapid transition between 100 and 600 yard plus targets 5 mils would do it. From my 100 yard zero, 500 yards is ~3.0 mils, depending on conditions. 1000 yards is ~9.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Kickboxer
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... line and sinker...
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SVT_Tactical
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The point is not that you have to have it or need it..... its why do it one way and even before they hit the market change it? Seems to me the prices for the ones with 5mil will drastically decrease as more will want the 10mil simply to say they have them.
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