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redfish1975
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Why do you say that?
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redfish1975
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We shoot a lot of 45 acp and 9mm as well so I am looking at it this way one unit and I can do .223 and the .45 and 9mm
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Bigdaddy0381
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I buy my .223, 45ACP stuff here. good folks.
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VD6 is just echoing my suggestion to buy, not ply your AR ammo. I think....hard to tell what that boy is thinking at times.
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338LAPUASLAP
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On a 1050 you can get 1000 rounds per hour once I have it right where I want it.
On a 550 you can get 300-400 depending on form. I still choose to reload the AR stuff because I can really knock it out and It gives me a significant pleasure. But sure enough one of my friends made a good point it is almost the same price and he didn't have to pay for the fancy equipment. I find that .223 is one of the few if not the only rifle caliber even close to new manufacture vs. reload. 30/06, 8mm, 7.62x54r and 7.62x39 to me are no brainers you can by in bulk and dirt cheap but these are old manufacturered cartridges, (I have not had a problem but I am pretty careful) it is a risk to not know the history or know the age I find it takes a few to gain paper punching confidence. Long Story short. It really is a toss up on plinking .223 or 5.56. For those not looking to recover maybe tula or other russian steel cased stuff. @ 2.99 per 20 everyonce in a while that is pretty hard to beat. Edited by 338LAPUASLAP - October/10/2011 at 14:25 |
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Kickboxer
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What's an hour of your time for .338 Lapua and .458 Lott????????????
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Lemme see, 1000 divided by the rotation of the earth, multipled by the International Dateline, subtract the gravitational pull of the moon...
Edited by Kickboxer - October/10/2011 at 13:48 |
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338LAPUASLAP
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I know the .338 Lapua by heart.
You have to give me your price on the .458 lott stuff. PPU Brass is $120 per 100 Hornady is $140 per 100 Lapua is $200 per 100 Black hills is $150 per 100 HSM is $150 per 100 I usually use LAPUA but I have broken down and purchased 1000 of the PPU. I use 215 Federal Primer (Is there any other) at 5000 for $130.00 I use VV n560 and VV n570 at $32.00per pound. I use 5 bullets ranging from $.50 to $2.75 just for the bullet. I Would recommend at $65.00 SCENAR 250 or $72.00 SCENAR 300. I Would also recommend the $60.00 Boretech 245gr Solid VLD bullet /per 50. So a light target round would be about 89 grs of powder ($.40) using a 250gr FMJ at about $.50 a piece using the PPU brass ($1.00) using federal primers. ($.025) .40 powder .50 bullet 1.00 brass .025 primer $1.925 per un assembled round for junk plinker ammo For a decent long Distance Round .45 powder 1.15 bullet 2.00 brass .025 primer $3.625 per un assembled round For the best I have found .55 powder 2.75 bullet 2.00 brass .025 pirmer $5.325 per un assembled round The Boretech's are a close second to the best flying I have found and are about $.50 less a pop compared to the LRB's... A solid for 1.00 a pop is a great price in my opinion. I have lost my contact on the $2.75 bullets I wish I had more... Oh yeah the Cost Of Assembly is pretty close to your calculation. I was told to only load your own. It is farily enexpensive to get the proper reloading equipment. I am sure your wife would buy it for you... Edited by 338LAPUASLAP - October/10/2011 at 14:56 |
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Sounds great...
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338LAPUASLAP
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How much do you pay per 20 now???
Besides the stuff you got in the bag have you had to buy some at the store yet???
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Kickboxer
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Dude, I wasn't kidding or anything. Sounds very good. Yes, I've purchased some...
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338LAPUASLAP
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OH Yeah...
I took no offense with anything... I was just showing the splits. Modestly I have a good mix I do keep the cheapie 250's loaded a few k or so another few in 245's 300's 310's some 162's 165's all in all I have a good battlepack of each Bullet.
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338LAPUASLAP
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But I was wondering how much people are paying per box now.
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Kickboxer
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Averages $3.00 to $6.00/round. I can get .50BMG a lot cheaper. .458 Lott is about the same, up to about $8.00 / round.
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I am assuming the best round you can buy at the store is a 300gr with Lapua brass in thta case I can reload those for roughly $2.50 (with less FPS variance and better seating) vs the $6.00 they cost for Black Hills Black Lable or Red Lable or the such. |
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richhelton
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I have a decent stock of .223 on hand, but rarely shoot the factory ammo. Last price I paid for 55gn FMJ-BT was about $85/1000.
Months back, Cabelas had a sale on CCI small rifle primers for $19.99/1000. Powder is roughly $.085 each bullet (26gn Reloder 15), or $85/1000. Brass is essentially free from shooting other factory ammo and range pickups. Total is well under $200/1000 for decent handloads, usually keeping less than 2.5" at 100yd. Time is a factor though. Without a progressive, it does take a good bit of time to make those 1k rounds. For me it is worth it.
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Alan Robertson
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the days of $85/1000 for M193 are gone. Maybe it will get cheap again some day.
I load for service rifle comp. and AR hunting ammo, but also buy loaded for blasting. $300/1000 is about today's standard. |
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Clark
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I reload 223 for shooting rodents.
It is cheaper and more accurate that way.
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JF4545
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I have a Model 700 VS SF II which has a 1-12 twist and shoots the lighter 223 bullets the best (50gr softpoints etc.} Its a shooter and it likes HSM ammo. I also have a Bushmaster AR with 20" barrel and a 1-8 twist.22 Does anyone know where I can buy good ammo, kinda cheap by the case for it? It needs to shoot 69 or 72 gr. match HP ammo...
I also have a Hornady Progressive and Hornady Single, maybe I should just reload, I do enjoy it alot...
Thanks!! Edited by JF4545 - December/22/2011 at 14:40 |
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Hey Julio. I have been loading 75 grain hornady HPBT with my hornady progressive. Winchester brass, 24.5 varget, cci primer. They are crazy accurate in my 1-8 and 1-7 twist barrels. I have got sub 1/2 moa groups with that load in 4 different barrels.
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