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Originally posted by Voodoo6 Voodoo6 wrote:

Don't reload for .223....BUY!  
Why do you say that?
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We shoot a lot of 45 acp and 9mm as well so I am looking at it this way one unit and I can do .223 and the .45 and 9mm
 
 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by redfish1975 redfish1975 wrote:

nope not bolt gun. So if I understand what you are saying its just not worth it for the AR guns. Cant ever find bulk in soft point or hollow point its always FMJ and I cant use those at the range.

Check these folks out. They sell soft point rounds in bulk or less, if you prefer.

Me and some others here have been buying their "Canned Heat" for years. Good people. 
 
I buy my .223, 45ACP stuff here. good folks.
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Originally posted by redfish1975 redfish1975 wrote:

Originally posted by Voodoo6 Voodoo6 wrote:

Don't reload for .223....BUY!  
Why do you say that?

VD6 is just echoing my suggestion to buy, not ply your AR ammo.  Wink
I think....hard to tell what that boy is thinking at times. 
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On a 1050 you can get 1000 rounds per hour once I have it right where I want it.
 
On a 550 you can get 300-400 depending on form.
 
I still choose to reload the AR stuff because I can really knock it out and It gives me a significant pleasure. 
 
But sure enough one of my friends made a good point it is almost the same price and he didn't have to pay for the fancy equipment.
 
I find that .223 is one of the few if not the only rifle caliber even close to new manufacture vs. reload.
 
30/06, 8mm, 7.62x54r and 7.62x39 to me are no brainers you can by in bulk and dirt cheap but these are old manufacturered cartridges, (I have not had a problem but I am pretty careful) it is a risk to not know the history or know the age I find it takes a few to gain paper punching confidence.
 
Long Story short.
 
It really is a toss up on plinking .223 or 5.56.
 
For those not looking to recover maybe tula or other russian steel cased stuff.  @ 2.99 per 20 everyonce in a while that is pretty hard to beat.
 
 


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What's an hour of your time for .338 Lapua and .458 Lott????????????

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Lemme see, 1000 divided by the rotation of the earth, multipled by the International Dateline, subtract the gravitational pull of the moon...

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I know the .338 Lapua by heart.
 
You have to give me your price on the .458 lott stuff.
 
PPU Brass is $120 per 100
 
Hornady is $140 per 100
 
Lapua is $200 per 100
 
Black hills is $150 per 100
 
HSM is $150 per 100
 
I usually use LAPUA but I have broken down and purchased 1000 of the PPU.
 
I use 215 Federal Primer (Is there any other) at 5000 for $130.00
 
I use VV n560 and VV n570 at $32.00per pound.
 
I use 5 bullets ranging from $.50 to $2.75 just for the bullet.
 
I Would recommend at $65.00 SCENAR 250 or $72.00 SCENAR 300.
 
I Would also recommend the $60.00 Boretech 245gr Solid VLD bullet /per 50.
 
 
 
So a light target round would be about 89 grs of powder ($.40) using a 250gr FMJ at about $.50 a piece using the PPU brass ($1.00) using federal primers. ($.025)
 
  .40 powder
  .50 bullet
1.00 brass
  .025 primer
 
$1.925 per un assembled round
 
for junk plinker ammo
 
For a decent long Distance Round
 
  .45 powder
 1.15 bullet
 2.00 brass
   .025 primer
 
$3.625 per un assembled round
 
For the best I have found
 
  .55 powder
2.75 bullet
2.00 brass
  .025 pirmer
 
$5.325 per un assembled round
 
 
 
The Boretech's are a close second to the best flying I have found and are about $.50 less a pop compared to the LRB's...  A solid for 1.00 a pop is a great price in my opinion.
 
I have lost my contact on the $2.75 bullets I wish I had more...
 
Oh yeah the Cost Of Assembly is pretty close to your calculation.
 
I was told to only load your own.  Wink
 
It is farily enexpensive to get the proper reloading equipment.
 
I am sure your wife would buy it for you...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by 338LAPUASLAP - October/10/2011 at 14:56
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Add in the vernal equinox, plus the projected price of copper in Paraguay on New Year's in 2525...

Sounds great...

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How much do you pay per 20 now???
 
Besides the stuff you got in the bag have you had to buy some at the store yet???
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Dude, I wasn't kidding or anything.  Sounds very good.  Yes, I've purchased some...


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OH Yeah...
 
I took no offense with anything...
 
I was just showing the splits.
 
Modestly I have a good mix I do keep the cheapie 250's loaded a few k or so another few  in 245's 300's 310's some 162's 165's all in all I have a good battlepack of each Bullet.
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But I was wondering how much people are paying per box now.
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Averages $3.00 to $6.00/round.  I can get .50BMG a lot cheaper.  .458 Lott is about the same, up to about $8.00 / round.  
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I am assuming the best round you can buy at the store is a 300gr with Lapua brass in thta case I can reload those for roughly $2.50 (with less FPS variance and better seating) vs the $6.00 they cost for Black Hills Black Lable or Red Lable or the such.

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I have a decent stock of .223 on hand, but rarely shoot the factory ammo.
Last price I paid for 55gn FMJ-BT was about $85/1000.
Months back, Cabelas had a sale on CCI small rifle primers for $19.99/1000.
Powder is roughly $.085 each bullet (26gn Reloder 15), or $85/1000.
Brass is essentially free from shooting other factory ammo and range pickups.
Total is well under $200/1000 for decent handloads, usually keeping less than 2.5" at 100yd.
 
Time is a factor though. Without a progressive, it does take a good bit of time to make those 1k rounds. For me it is worth it.
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the days of $85/1000 for M193 are gone. Maybe it will get cheap again some day.
I load for service rifle comp. and AR hunting ammo, but also buy loaded for blasting. $300/1000 is about today's standard.
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I reload 223 for shooting rodents.

It is cheaper and more accurate that way.
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I have a Model 700 VS SF II which has a 1-12 twist and shoots the lighter 223 bullets the best (50gr softpoints etc.} Its a shooter and it likes HSM ammo.

I also have a Bushmaster AR with 20" barrel and a 1-8 twist.22 Does anyone know where I can buy good ammo, kinda cheap by the case for it? It needs to shoot 69 or 72 gr. match HP ammo...
 
I also have a Hornady Progressive and Hornady Single, maybe I should just reload, I do enjoy it alot...
 
Thanks!!


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Hey Julio.  I have been loading 75 grain hornady HPBT with my hornady progressive.  Winchester brass, 24.5 varget, cci primer.  They are crazy accurate in my 1-8 and 1-7 twist barrels.  I have got sub 1/2 moa groups with that load in 4 different barrels.  
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