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That is they would make their new Razor HD LH  with G4 BDC reticle with Tritium dots, I would sell all my other scopes and buy them for all my rifles.


If the G4 had even one Tritium dot it would be great. If it had 3 dots ,the top one being the largest, or a different color ,it would be absolutely perfect for a hunting scope. I would want Tritium rather than standard illumination to keep the scopes the same weight.


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I'll suggest it, but I do not know how straightforward that is. Tritium is controlled, so that part of it has to be added stateside. Perhaps, it would be dumped and quicker to make a design with a conventional illuminated dot or with a photoluminescent coating.

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Interesting reticle, the G4 DDC. Looking at it on paper and reading it's sub tensions, i would be afraid the reticle is too fine and too thin. For hunting in brush, that is.


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The reticle is a lot bolder in person than it looks to be in print. I've sat with it several evenings until dark. The heavy portion is bold enough to bracket a deer size target well enough out a bit past 100 yards a little after legal shooting light.

Tritium would really come in handy on the dot for longer range precision shots at last legal light.


Mr. Koshkin, a photoluminescent coating would work fine for me such as the old Bushnell 3200 Firefly had. It could always be charged by a Maglight  when light started fading, which is the only time it would ever be needed anyway. Frankly, I don't understand why such coatings never became more popular. They must not be nearly tactical enough for the armchair commandoes.

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I trick I learned in a precision rifle night shooting class was to buy some of those glow sticks that people put through there tongues for tongue rings.  Then get some kind of puddy, I use that stick puddy that you can hang stuff on the wall with. 

Then light up the stick and use the puddy to put the glod stick in the objective right aginst the glass.  U use the puddy to adjust the brightness by cover part of the glow stick up.  I used this with the SS 10xHD for the night shoot and worked great.  It back lit the reticle to where I could see it just fine. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I trick I learned in a precision rifle night shooting class was to buy some of those glow sticks that people put through there tongues for tongue rings.  Then get some kind of puddy, I use that stick puddy that you can hang stuff on the wall with. 

Then light up the stick and use the puddy to put the glod stick in the objective right aginst the glass.  U use the puddy to adjust the brightness by cover part of the glow stick up.  I used this with the SS 10xHD for the night shoot and worked great.  It back lit the reticle to where I could see it just fine. 

Can you post a picture of this setup?  I have not heard about this one, so I am a little curious.

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Originally posted by R H Clark R H Clark wrote:

Anweis

The reticle is a lot bolder in person than it looks to be in print. I've sat with it several evenings until dark. The heavy portion is bold enough to bracket a deer size target well enough out a bit past 100 yards a little after legal shooting light.

Tritium would really come in handy on the dot for longer range precision shots at last legal light.


Mr. Koshkin, a photoluminescent coating would work fine for me such as the old Bushnell 3200 Firefly had. It could always be charged by a Maglight  when light started fading, which is the only time it would ever be needed anyway. Frankly, I don't understand why such coatings never became more popular. They must not be nearly tactical enough for the armchair commandoes.


I'll harass Vortex about it and see.

The reticle is pretty visible as is, IMO, but a little more low light visibility is always a good thing.

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I imagine those little glow sticks used for fishing might work well too.
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I don't really have a way to post a picture of it.  I don't have any of the glow sticks any more. 

But there are just the small sticks like this.  https://www.amazon.com/Tongue-Glowstick-Barbell-Holder-glowsticks/dp/B004A6FJQU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1480361622&sr=8-3&keywords=tongue+glow+sticks

And something like this for the puddy.  https://www.amazon.com/Duck-Removable-Mounting-Poster-1436912/dp/B000BQMFEC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480361830&sr=8-2&keywords=wall+stick+puddy

Then you just warp the glow stick in the puddy and stick in in the objective.  It doesn't take much light to see the reticle.  With to much it doesn't work well. 

Does Scott Hoerner still work as FS?  He is the one who showed me that. 

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I'll harass Vortex about it and see.

The reticle is pretty visible as is, IMO, but a little more low light visibility is always a good thing.

ILya



I really like the reticle. It's a big improvement over most scopes that use the traditional German #4 as is. I can bracket the kill zone of a deer sized animal a little over 100 yards but if I could see the dots and BDC lines at last light it would make it capable at even longer range.

I am using this scope in place of a Kahles Helia CL 2-7X36 which has been my favorite light weight tweener up until now. I'm a big fan of this power range in a light weight hunting rifle. It's very high praise for me to say I like this Razor HD LH 1.5-8X32 better than my beloved Kahles CL 2-7X36 with #4.

I appreciate your involvement in getting this reticle to hunters.
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Whats the deal with tritium being controlled? Is that one of those "cant export military technology" things since it's used in ACOGs?
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Tritium is a radioactive material.  It has always been controlled bu the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The amount used in riflescopes and weapon sights is very small, but I do not know the details of the regulations to be honest.  I suspect the setting up a facility abroad that processes tritium might be a bit involved.

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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I trick I learned in a precision rifle night shooting class was to buy some of those glow sticks that people put through there tongues for tongue rings.  Then get some kind of puddy, I use that stick puddy that you can hang stuff on the wall with. 

Then light up the stick and use the puddy to put the glod stick in the objective right aginst the glass.  U use the puddy to adjust the brightness by cover part of the glow stick up.  I used this with the SS 10xHD for the night shoot and worked great.  It back lit the reticle to where I could see it just fine. 

I could smart off and have some real live fun with this post, but I won't. I could ask you how you really know about glow- in- the- dark tongue rings and such, but I won't.



Like hell I won't.
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