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Hello folks.

I have been offered a scope which I am considering picking up for my CZ 527 American in.223 Rem.

Currently have a 3-9x36 Habicht on there and looks great and is light.

I have been offered a 2.5-10x42 Swarovski Habicht with illuminated reticle.

So, to swap I'd get a bit more mag, a bit more light gathering

Trade-offs - bit of spend, maybe a bit less aesthetics

(I have a soft spot for Swarovski Habicht scopes).

So, should I stick or twist?

Scrummy


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not quite sure I understand... is this an even swap...do you have to give your scope and some boot.. or are you buying it outright?

all things being equal... I would take the 2.5-10x42.

if you keep the 3-9x36, I bet it would look great on a 17HMR/17Hornett or a nice 22LR

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Mag difference is negligible IMO.  So for me it would come down to low light.  Do you shoot that gun in low light often?  If so the ill reticle would be a good upgrade IMO. 

The objective size in reference to the mag range of each scope makes the "light gathering" almost a wash as well.  But if it is a low light often gun, every little bit helps so again I would pick the 42mm if it is a low light rifle.  If not, I would keep the lighter weight scope. 


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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

not quite sure I understand... is this an even swap...do you have to give your scope and some boot.. or are you buying it outright?

all things being equal... I would take the 2.5-10x42.

if you keep the 3-9x36, I bet it would look great on a 17HMR/17Hornett or a nice 22LR



My Brno Model 2 has a 3-9x36 on it already...

I think perhaps I should get the scope. Would be a straight buy and then I'd have to think of what to do with the other 3-9x36...

I think for foxes the low light option would be good.

I also have an illuminated 8x56 Illuminated Habicht not doing anything right now...


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Scrummy, an extre scope means another rifle is needed!

I love my ERi Leica.
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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Scrummy, an extre scope means another rifle is needed!

I love my ERi Leica.


Uh... huh...
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Illuminated reticle is nice for low light. What reticle do you have on the 3-9 and are you allowed to use lights at night if you can hunt then?
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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Scrummy, an extre scope means another rifle is needed!


Took the words right out of my mouth!
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Scrummy, an extre scope means another rifle is needed!



Took the words right out of my mouth!



I learned from you the #1 facilitator!

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You would enjoy the 2.5 more than the 3x on the low end you would also enjoy it being brighter but would only notice that over 6x.  Depends on cost. 
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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Scrummy, an extre scope means another rifle is needed!



Took the words right out of my mouth!



I learned from you the #1 facilitator!

👍🥃💥💥💥.

And there was me thinking you'd tell me to be sensible...
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

You would enjoy the 2.5 more than the 3x on the low end you would also enjoy it being brighter but would only notice that over 6x.  Depends on cost. 

Dammit!
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I'll be the sensible one here.
Get the 2.5-10x42, and put the 3-9x36 on 17HMR, or 22Mag. Browning T-bolt for small game and pestWink
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What? You were expecting a different answer. Ted and I are on the same wavelength.
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I'll be the sensible one here.
Get the 2.5-10x42, and put the 3-9x36 on 17HMR, or 22Mag. Browning T-bolt for small game and pestWink


My ERi is a 2.5-10x42 Scrummy and there are some great deals out there right now.
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Dammit folks! I have a 3-9x36 Swaro on my .22lr already

(I have 2x 3-9x36...)

Supertool, I think you might have a point... All my other scopes have an illuminated ret...
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What guns do they allow you to own in the UK ? 

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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

What guns do they allow you to own in the UK ? 


We can have

Shotguns
Centrefire rifles (That aren't semi-auto, fully auto or pump action)
Rimfire that aren't fully automatic
Air rifles
Air pistols

But there are permits of various forms for most of the above (bar sub 12 ftlbs air rifles and air pistols less than 6 ftlbs)

ATB,

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So lever action guns and semi auto 22's  are OK there? No pistols? Didn't they just freak out about knives of is that just in London?
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London is having a bit of a freak out about knives.

Lever actions are fine as are semi auto .22 rimfires (But not .17 semi-autos).

Pistols are very restricted and basically not available for the average shooter.

You can get pistols that are restricted and conditioned (on your firearms certificate) for humane dispatch (usually that means revolvers that have most of the chambers filled or semi autos that have the magazine pinned at 2 rounds. Also means you should only really carry them when out hunting or going to deal with a wounded animal - Interestingly, there is no law for possession of pistol magazines in the UK.

You can have long barrelled pistols (.22 rimfire only) and long barrel revolvers which have long barrels and grip extension to basically make them rifles under the law (see link below) but I'm not a fan of these.

You can get a very difficult license for shooting pistols but you have to store them at an armoury / registered firearms dealer and you need a range which you can lock yourself in and all sorts. Just too difficult.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=long+barrel+pistol+uk&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB752GB752&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip7IWRnq_aAhXTFsAKHQGFBz8Q_AUICygC&biw=1662&bih=691


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Scrummy...... what did you decide?


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Still umming and ahhing...
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