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Does a 1", side focus, MRAD turret scope exist?

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    Posted: January/29/2016 at 23:09
Hey guys, I'm new here but I know a bit about optics.  I'm looking for an adjustable scope for my 223.

Here's what I need:
-Inch tube
-Side paralax
-Mil adjustments
-Under $700
-max mag over 10, but anywhere 12-18 works


I am thinking such a bird does not exist.  I don't care FFP or SFP.  I also don't care what type of zero set, zero stop, or if the turrets are capped.  As long as I can run the turrets by hand, I'm good.  But I believe side focus and mil turrets mean 30mm.  If so, it means I buy new rings.

I'd rather keep the magnification low, because the adjustable scopes running $0-2,000 don't have glass good enough for 20x or better and it's just a waste.
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Originally posted by Twinsen Twinsen wrote:

Hey guys, I'm new here but I know a bit about optics.  I'm looking for an adjustable scope for my 223.

Here's what I need:
-Inch tube
-Side paralax
-Mil adjustments
-Under $700
-max mag over 10, but anywhere 12-18 works


I am thinking such a bird does not exist.  I don't care FFP or SFP.  I also don't care what type of zero set, zero stop, or if the turrets are capped.  As long as I can run the turrets by hand, I'm good.  But I believe side focus and mil turrets mean 30mm.  If so, it means I buy new rings.

I'd rather keep the magnification low, because the adjustable scopes running $0-2,000 don't have glass good enough for 20x or better and it's just a waste.

I don't know of any scopes that meet all your wish list items… 
However, your assessment that there are no variable scopes with 20x or more below $2000 worth buying is totally in error.   
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Well then, that's just my experience with Leupold, Vortex, Steiner, and Nikon.

I was pretty sure I was asking for something that doesn't exist.  If I go to 30mm, my options are like 20 companies and 500 models.  I'm gonna go look for an SFP 3-15, 4-14, etc.  The usual suspects will have something for me.
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Thank you for confirming.  I was making sure I wasn't going crazy and forgetting somebody.
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30mm takes you from 1 inch to slightly less than 1.2 inches.  For the potential added features, not much of a size differential.  You can still go with a small objective if that is a goal.  

The random inconsistency in Nikon glass I have never understood.  I've seen Nikons with glass I would rate as very good to excellent and the same scope with glass I would rate as medium.  Not "common", but it exists.  
Vortex is good quality glass, I've never seen one with what I would call "exceptional" glass until you get to their RAZOR AMG class.  However, I believe I can get a RAZOR HD Gen II for under $2000.00 and I would actually like to take a look at their 4.5-27.  I've seen the 6-24 and certainly would not throw it away.  
I have an 8-32 target/varmint scope I paid right around $200.00 for that sits on my 243 BAR and I find it quite excellent.  It is useable in low light up to the end of legal shooting (30 min after sunset) and though the edges are a little "rough" at 32x, there is nothing that causes eye strain.  As light dims it gets grainier in low light, but no show stoppers… at 20x it is quite "clean".  I have a couple of 6-24's that cost well under $1000.00 that perform well to very well in all light conditions, sharp/clear at high power and long range.  Nothing compares to my Hensoldt 6-24x72, but my wife spent a couple of dollars more than $2000.00 on that one.  

And welcome to the OT forum.  Glad to have you aboard.
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Agree… the SS 3-15 is a superior rifle scope.
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I suckered myself into another Vortex.  I haven't had the chance to use the adjustable SWFA models.  I've had 4 of the 10x42s though.
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Can we not edit our posts?

I wanted to also say that the SWFA MRAD reticle is my favorite.
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Forum requires 50 posts before u can edit or add pictures. Helps reduce the amount of annoyance from spammers
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