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pyro6999
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i agree with you roy they are pretty close, i like the constant 4" relief the conquest sports, and also the thicker reticle. other than that it would take me a long time of side by side testing to declare a clear winner
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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tahqua
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I agree here, too. The 3-9 4200 is very close to the 3-9 Conquest. For the money it's the 4200 all the way for me.
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Roy Finn
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I saw a member review here just recently where a 4200 was compared to a Conquest and I believe the poster thought they were close as well. The Conquest, in 3-9 anyway, has more eye relief, but if it's a thicker reticle you desire, look through a FireFly equipped 4200. I have this reticle in two of my 4200's, and for low light, it's about as good as it gets, IMO. In fact, I have not "charged" the reticle while hunting yet. Never needed too.
Roy
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Ed Connelly
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Really? Even Big Squeeze and Cyborg??
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pyro6999
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i ate a jelly dougnut once and it made me thats classy right there
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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Roy Finn
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Ok, Ok, with the exception of Big Squeeze and Cyborg it's a good crowd. Dually noted. :)
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tahqua
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Roy is being very generous. A lot of us have had our day in the sun around here. Regardless, he is correct. This forum is civil compared to some others. Check out the caliber corner or carry issues over @GT and you'll know what I mean.
I'm not sure which way I would go on the O.P. The 3.5-10 Leo has been very good to me. If we throw in the 4200, it would be Bushy all the way. |
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pyro6999
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when was my day in sun??
alright im going to make today it,
my wife likes cream filled doughnuts with chocolate frosting Edited by pyro6999 - June/28/2008 at 11:29 |
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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tahqua
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I don't know when, or if, for you. Damn, I run a search on your name for one year and it's a hundred pages |
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pyro6999
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lol im a loser!
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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tahqua
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No, you're a pyro.......see #4 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pyro |
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mike650
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“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
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mike650
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“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
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pyro6999
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yeah compliments of ted imagine that
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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martin3175
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I haven't given the Firefly reticle a try --have to give that some thought...and yes , I stand behind my thoughts on the comparison !!!! If the Conquest was within a few dollars, then it may be a toss up for the bolder reticle VS the Rainguard ..but I'd still probably go for the rainguard... Edited by martin3175 - June/28/2008 at 12:35 |
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sakomato
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Most of the time the way these comparisons come up in camp is someone asks the question "What do you think of Leupolds?" fully expecting me to share their enthusiasm and tell them it's a great scope. When my answer is I don't think much of them, there is a pause and a look of incredulity on their faces, their eyes narrow and they immediately go into a defensive you-don't-know-what-you're-talking-about mode of disbelief. If no more is said then I leave it at that. If they ask the 2nd tier of questions I explain that Leupold uses inferior glass, sometimes their click adjustments are not accurate, they are fuzzy by comparison and they are overpriced. It is much like explaining how the rich pay way more taxes than anyone else, the cause of high gas prices or talking about weapons of mass destruction with a liberal Democrat with most of them at that time. But at least they go away and don't bother me anymore because they have no arguments other than that's what they grew up with and it's American made (don't the glass components of Leupold come from the Phillipines or Japan much like the glass for Conquests come from Germany?).
A very few will take it to the next level and ask to be shown. I don't bring it up or instantly criticize their scopes. Mostly people who know me enough to respect my opinion have been shown and have realized there are other scopes out there.
The question was asked to compare Zeiss and Leupold. That comparison is like comparing a Chevrolet to a BMW, IMO. Now I own a Chevrolet truck but if BMW made one then I would have to look at it and possible switch if they were the same price, or less, than the Chevrolet.
However, I sincerely hope that Leupold will start producing a better products and I will be the first to try one out and go back to them.
Edited by sakomato - June/28/2008 at 13:23 |
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Dale Clifford
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I sincerely would like BMW to make a vehicle that was up to a chevy off road.
Edited by Dale Clifford - June/28/2008 at 15:10 |
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sakomato
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I feel bad about talking trash on Leupold so much. Feel like I ate too many doughnuts!!
I apologize!
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Guns only have 2 enemies, rust and politicians
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bricat
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WOW! way to go Snipe, your first posting on the O.T. and you have already caused 12 pages of opinion, debate, and some good old fashioned bakery porn! You'll fit in just fine. - Bricat
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tahqua
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Well said, Brian. I wouldn't expect anything less from a fellow Michigander. Doug |
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