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Pyro, I did look at that model, but the price is a bit steep. As it is the Varmint after import duty etc cost me double the listed price as in the USA. So this rifle would set me back in excess of $5000 at R8 to the $!!!
So an aftermarket trigger was the cheaper option for me.
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im sure it was router, i feel sorry for you that you have to deal with that kind of garbage, a man should be able to order a rifle and pickup and pay for the rifle, not pay for all the paperwork and hoops they want you to jump through.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote head hunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/02/2008 at 09:49
That aint even right for that kind of money it would have been after market trigger all the way. By the way I just got my rings in a few minutes ago I'm going to try and get the scope on her today and maybe get to the gunsmith tomorrow. You guys think about three too three and a half pounds on the trigger pull for a deer rifle sounds about right.
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3 pounds for hunting works best for me, but I have a few customers that like them lower but it make me nerves being any lower than 3 pounds.
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The thing that makes me worried is when your wearing gloves and loose some of your feel.
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Originally posted by head hunter head hunter wrote:

The thing that makes me worried is when your wearing gloves and loose some of your feel.
 
Practice with your gloves on. The gloves I have the fingers flip open for shooting time.
 
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Here in upstate NY by the Canadian border if you use those flip open gloves your finger will freeze to the triggerBig%20Grin

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8-shots.  Why not get a Sako Varmint with a set trigger to match your big-game Sako 300?  How do the prices of Sako's compare to Remington's in S. Africa?
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I have my Rem 700 BDL in .223 set right around 3 lbs and I have to be real careful with it!!!  It has gone off twice just a fraction of a second before I intened for it to.  Now before you get all excited, I don't put my finger in the trigger guard until I'm in a "safe" shooting zone, so no ones safety was ever in doubt.  I'm going to give it another season and see how it goes, if I don't get the hang of it, I'll move it up a lb. or so.
 
Going forward, I will probably keep my hunting rifles around 4 lbs at the low end.
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3 to 3.5 for me, any less is dangerous for hunting.

I've seen a buddies rifle with a hair trigger (definitely less than 3#'s) rifle go off on it's own. It had a harris bipod, legs not fully extended, resting on uneven ground and tipped to it's side. BOOM!!! Not good, luckily no one got hurt. It was the last time I ever saw that rifle.

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Does the X-mark trigger have to be adjusted by a gunsmith or can you do it yourself? If it is easy to do by yourself, can someone explain to me how to adjust it down. 
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Adjusting the Remington 700 Trigger

To Steve, many thanks for showing me how to do this many years ago!

Background:

The Remington trigger system is a very good system that in years past came directly from the factory with a crisp and reasonable pull. These days however, Remington is producing triggers that are not as smooth and are liability proof with pull weights that have gotten to the point of being ridiculous. These changes are due to Remington trying to reduce the cost of their rifles and the ever present fear of civil liability from a trigger that is too light. If you are not conscious of gun safety and are not smart enough to keep your fingers off your trigger until you are ready to fire, I kindly ask you to read no further and find another hobby as I accept no responsibility for stupid people. The modifications that I am about to discuss have the potential to be extremely dangerous if not done carefully! If you have the slightest doubt about what you are doing, I strongly urge you to have a competent gunsmith adjust your trigger for you as the cost is minimal.

The Remington trigger:

The Remington 700 Trigger has three screws as shown in the following image.


When you look at your trigger you will see that the heads of these screws are covered in a glue or loctite. To adjust your trigger it will be necessary to scrape this glue off the screw heads and then determine if your screw heads are slotted or allen head. The next step in this process is to break the screws loose and add a small drop of oil to help with adjustments. I normally run the screws in and out a couple times to make sure that the screw is not binding and the surfaces of the screw are completely covered in oil.

Adjusting the trigger:

Back out the spring tension (trigger pull) screw to a light trigger pull that is adequate to keep some pressure on the trigger but is very light (trigger pull will be set later). Next back out the sear engagement screw, and the over travel screws several turns.

Once the screws are adjusted as above, close the bolt (without dry firing) and SLOWLY turn the sear engagement screw in until the firing pin is released. From this point, back the screw out a half turn. Without recocking the firing pin, screw the over travel screw in until you feel it contact the trigger lightly, preventing the trigger from moving. From this point, back the over travel screw out a quarter turn. When you pull the trigger at this point there should be a very slight movement of the trigger.

To adjust the trigger pull, adjust the spring tension screw to a pull that you like. As you turn the screw in the trigger pull will be increased and the pull will be reduced as the screw is backed out. I would not recommend going lighter than 1 to 1.5-pounds with a factory trigger and I prefer a trigger closer to 2 to 2.5-pounds for a big game rifle.

Work the bolt several times to cock the rifle and try the trigger with the trigger gauge and your finger to make sure that you are happy with how the trigger pull and release feels and the weight is something that you are comfortable with. I also recommend the use of a good trigger gauge to confirm that you are getting a consistent break. If the break you are getting is not consistent, then you may need to increase the trigger pull or consider having the trigger rebuilt or replaced by a competent gunsmith.

Safety Checks!

After you are happy with the feel of the trigger it is essential that you perform a safety check as described here. First, slam the bolt closed HARD up to a dozen times watching to see if the sear allows the firing pin to be released. If the firing pin is released, back out the sear engagement screw another 1/4 turn, and repeat slamming the bolt again.

Next, cock the firing pin and put the weapon on "SAFE" and pull the trigger, release the trigger, put the weapon on "FIRE". Repeat this process several times and if the firing pin is released, increase the trigger pull and repeat this process.

Once these safety checks are performed, take nail polish and seal the heads of the screws and allow it to dry. I normally try to use two coats to make sure that the screws are properly glued in place. Once adjusted, the Remington trigger rarely needs additional adjustment and can be as good as many after market triggers.

Postscript:

I have recently purchased a new Remington 700 Classic that quite literally had the God awful worse trigger I have ever felt on any gun. This trigger was rough in the sear engagement and the trigger spring itself was too stiff to allow for any adjustment that was acceptable for my taste. I understand that it is possible to buy replacement trigger springs and to have the sear surface polished but these are tasks that are beyond my level of understanding so I took a trigger out of a well used Remington 700 ADL from the early 1970's and swapped it for my new trigger. I felt guilty selling my old ADL with that new Rem. 700 trigger that was so lousy, but at least the gun that I wanted to keep has a crisp 2-pound trigger that I can trust to work as a quality trigger should!

If your rifle has a really bad trigger, you may wish considering looking for replacement in the form of a used factory or an aftermarket trigger. Click Here to find another trigger for your Remington 700!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/06/2008 at 06:10
the xmark adjusts like any other m700 trigger i would also add that when you finish placing some nail polish on the threads of the adjustment screws is a good idea, kinda gives a loctite effect without the loctite

Edited by pyro6999 - October/06/2008 at 06:12
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/06/2008 at 09:47
Here some info written by a gunsmith regarding the new Remington trigger. Before spending the money on an aftermarket unit, I would take the time to read this thread......

Remington X-Mark Pro trigger info

Edited by Roy Finn - October/06/2008 at 09:48
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