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TerryC
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Posted: March/24/2009 at 15:04 |
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Ok, the gears are turning and smoke is slowly seaping out my ears.
I'm in the market for a specialty scope. It's going on a long range "bean field" type rifle to shoot deer at medium/long range.
The delima is which size scope to buy. I've got the brand and model picked out but they make it with a 50mm and 56mm objective. Of coarse the 50mm is the one I want because it's not as bulky but, this is a specialty rig desined for one purpose and I'm not going to be carrying it around much. I think I can learn to like a 56mm scope IF there much benifit to it. So there is my question. Is the 56mm scope that much brighter than a 50mm? And, is the extra bulk worth the extra light transmission?
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Terry
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Ed Connelly
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I don't know. But if I had a beanfield rifle that I was going to use while sitting and not climbing mountains, I would get one. What the heck. If weight is not an issue, and if high mounts is not a concern, I'm sure a real fabulous 56mm scope would probably be very bright. You can just use another rifle when you are running around mountaintops.
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TerryC
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hunter12345
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Your talking about a 2oz weight difference with a 50mm and 56mm objective.The 56mm scopes I have were indeed brighter than the 50mm scopes.You just have to remember you need extra high rings for the 56mm.I just bought 2 Weaver Classic Extremes on closeouts to see how they compare to my other scopes.
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mike650
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The 56mm sounds great for low light conditions!! How's your rifle's cheek weld??
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It all comes down to the scope and the coatings for that line. The coatings make for more differance than 6mm.
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mike650
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I mentioned cheek weld because the scope will probably be sitting higher than say a 40mm - 50mm. For me, I find long distance consistency while hunting may suffer some if I don't get a good cheek rest so I might shy away from a 56mm scope.
Some on the other hand love the 56mm especially when hunting hogs in low light/night time conditions which I think is really cool!! |
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Roy Finn
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Perhaps only a slight amount............................
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Roy Finn
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Texas Sheep Rifle...................
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Nice cheek weld.
Sweet rifle!!! |
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Roy Finn
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I hope you don't think that train wreck is mine.................what a POS
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rifle looney
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Roy, that aint no damn Remington .....
Edited by rifle looney - March/24/2009 at 18:18 |
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TerryC
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Yea, I've seen that one before. That's a 72mm objective Zeiss! It's a little different than a 56mm. The donuts on the barrel are a hoot.
The cheek weld is something I really haven't considered and don't know about. I've got a stock on order from McMillan so I won't know until they deliver.
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The "donut" on the barrel is the Limbsaver Barrel Deresonator... works the similar to the Browning Ballistic Optimizing Shooting System.
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RONK
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Why?
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RifleDude
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I think it all depends on the intent for the rifle it's to be mounted on. I'm not a fan of 56mm objectives (and in some cases, even 50mm) in general, but I do realize they have their use. My personal objection to huge objectives isn't really about additional weight either. For me, I just don't like my scope to be significantly wider than the rifle's forearm, when looking down from above or below. This is partially an aesthetic consideration, partly a mount height and cheek weld consideration, as well as a scope & mount system rigidity consideration. Having the objective bell wider than the rifle itself means that the bell dictates how well the rifle will fit inside a scabbard or case, and can cause undue wear on the objective bell finish. Lean the rifle up against something and it tends to want to roll onto the objective bell, especially if a huge scope makes the rifle top heavy.
HOWEVER, I have a 56mm scope on a rifle with adjustable cheekpiece that I only shoot from a bench or bipod, and in that application, it isn't at all a hindrance. If I planned to use the rifle for the purpose specified in this thread, I can see the value of gaining that little extra low light performance at higher magnifications a 56mm scope offers. Whether or not 56mm really makes a difference vs. 50mm depends on the magnification setting you really use most of the time. IMO, having a 56mm objective doesn't make a huge difference vs. 50mm to my eyes on a scope topping out at no more than 10X. Beyond that, and the larger objective does start to make a difference to me. |
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Roy Finn
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Why, what? Why do I call it a train wreck or a POS. I honestly don't know what someone would use that rig for. Deer hunting? Long rang shooting? I can think of so many more practical and efficient applications for both. |
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Al Nyhus
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Ahhhhhh, the mythical, magical, can't-shoot-well-without-it "......cheek weld".
Too funny. -Al
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308WIN
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quality glass in 40-45mm will do 99.9% of the 56mm stuff in the dark and 100% of it in legal hours for deer
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