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BobH
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Posted: April/27/2009 at 22:44 |
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I am looking to scope a 1956 Mannlicher Schoenauer carbine, and was wondering if any of you guys know of a place that sells older scope models. I was hoping to get something that would look appropriate on a rifle of this age, so I think that an older Zeiss or other German manufacturer would be nice. If you guys could let me know, or if you know of some of the older manufacturers from Germany/Austria that I could google, I would appreciate it.
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rifle looney
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Gun Broker has what you need!
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BobH
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That was easy, and you are right. Any suggestions on brands? Any brands from this age that I need to steer well clear of? |
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BobH
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On second glance, it looks like they have a couple of Redfields, and not much else. Any other suggestions?
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rifle looney
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There are a lot more than Redfields,don't want to suggest a scope I think you know what you are looking for, try a wider search on that site they have everything try adding... older,vintage or name brand they will come up Unertles are good the Hawk model for that gun, old Lymans? Weavers, Kahles ,Bushnell balvars, Hensolts?
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magshooter1
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Try the on-line auctins AA and E***
I see Pecar's on the latter farely regularly.
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silver
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There is a guy that runs an ad in what ever gunlist is called now.
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BobH
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Hi Magshooter, thanks for the info, but who is Pecar? Or do I just look silly asking that question?
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madcratebuilder
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Evil bay has a large selection of vintage scopes. I have bought two older Weaver K series scopes, both near new condition.
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iwilder
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BobH biggest
What scope you need will depend to some degree on what model and year your mannlicher Schoenauer is. I have a Mannlicher Schoenauer 1956 magnum in 6.5x68. This gun has a factory mounted Kahles 2x7 rail scope in Steyr mounts. That is the factory setup. See if you can find an old Stoegers catalog from the 50s. They were the MS importer. Ebay has a lot of older european scopes for sale. Check them out.
The biggest obstacle will be the mount. Due to the spilt bridge, mounts are usually high. I would steer away from mounts that require you to drill extra holes. The Redfield mount works well. The Leupold mount requires extra holes. The Bausch & Lomb\Kuharsky mounts may work for your model and the early B&L balvar scopes are nice and easy to find. They have etched tapered cross hairs in some of them (Balvar 8a). I have several of these and like them. From the 1951 model on they were drilled and tapped on the left side ti the rear of the receiver. Not until the MCA model M/S was the receiver ring factory drilled and tapped. Some models have a plate for a side mount. This is mounted below the stock line on the left side. I believe Griffin& Howe as well as some others will work. This doesn't require new holes or cutting away at the stock. It also allows easy removal of teh scope for use of iron sights as does the Steyr mount I mentioned earlier. It is similar to the EAW mount.
I hope this helps
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iwilder
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Not sure what the "BobH biggest" means, even if I wrote it myself.
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Ed Connelly
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yep, I would go to ebay to look for vintage scopes.....I believe I have seen just about every brand on earth on ebay over the years. You can also contact the sellers and pick their brains about other sources.
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www.technika.nu
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Here is my gun, a 1903 with a variation of Stricker patent cheekpiece and 7/8" diameter scope in orignal mannlichers shoenaur scopemounts from the 50th. The scope will be replaced with a Zeiss, Hensoldt, Kahles or whatever when I find one. The Binocular at the picure is a Leitz Binozito (1910) one of the first Leitz (Leica) binoculars to come out on the market. However as you probably want you gun to be correct, I would recomend either this orignal mount (farily easy to find in europe, Ebay is a good solution) or a clawmount, but those are expensive. Scopevise I would go for Zeiss, Hensoldt, Kahles, Swarovski or any other high end european that qualityvise corresponds to the gun you have.
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8shots
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Technika, that is a sweet looking setup.
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mike650
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That is a NICE rifle!! Great pictures too!!
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magshooter1
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Pecar was a small German Optics Co. in Berlin that closed its doors early last year. You can find some other references here on the OT. They made very good high quality scopes. Most of what I see online for sale is older stuff.
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magshooter1
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Pecar was a small German Optics Co. in Berlin that sadly closed its doors early last year. You can find some other references here on the OT. They made very good high quality scopes. Most of what I see online for sale is older stuff.
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Ed Connelly
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Great rifle and photos, technika!!
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What a CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!
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magshooter1
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Pecar was a small Berlin, Gemany optics firm that sady, closed its doors early last year. They made very good high quality scopes. You can find other references to them here on the OT. Most of what I have seen on auction sites are their older scopes. Hope this helps.
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