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RAT3622
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HELLO I NEED HELP PICKING OUT A "SNIPER SCOPE". I AM TRYING OUT FOR MY SWAT TEAM AS A SNIPER NEXT YEAR AND I HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE "SCOPE TRAINING". MY DADS IDEA WAS THAT IF YOU COULDN'T SHOOT USING "STEEL" THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO SHOOT AT IT..... SO OTHER THAT MY FELLOW LEO'S I HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE TIME BEHIND GLASS WITH ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO COULD SOME HELP ME OR GIVE A PLACE TO START????? I HAVE THE RIFLES, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THE SCOPE!!!!!!
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What is your budget?
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BeltFed
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Talk to the snipers on your team and see what they use (rifle, scope, and cartridge), and then try to duplicate it as close as your wallet will allow. You may also want to check out the link for long range shooting at the top of this section.
There is lots of knowledge here, just cruise the threads here and when you have a question, ask away, and ignore Ed.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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It's Tactical Shooting FAQs. Great info.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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WELL MY MAX IS ABOUT $500 OR SO!!!!
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I suppose this is the part where Chris II is going to tell us whether the up and coming variable Super Sniper will fit in that price range . That point aside, assuming that for those $500 you need to get the scope along with the bases and mounts, I suggest you get a 10x42 Super Sniper with high quality base and rings. Which rifle is this going on? ILya |
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HOW DO YOU READ A SCOPE???? I WAS TOLD BY ANOTHER SNIPER I KNOW I SHOULD STAY WITH A 3-9 POWER x40MAX....BUT AS I SAID EARLIER I AM DUMB TO SCOPES SO THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME!!!!! |
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The 3-9 isthe power of the scope, or the number of times the image is manified. example: if the scope is set on 3x, then the image is magnified 3 times, 9x means the image is magnified 9 times. The scope is a variable, so it can be adjusted in power anywhere between 3 to 9 power. The 40 means that the objective lens (the end that faces the target) is 40mm in diameter, this determines how much light comes into the scope.
Gotta go!
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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OK BEING THAT MOST LEO SNIPER SHOTS ARE TAKEN AT NO MORE THAN 100 YARDS ON AVERAGE SHOULD I STAY WITH A VARIABLE SCOPE SO THAT I HAVE THE OPTION TO "TURN DOWN THE POWER"?????? BEING THAT THE IMAGE IS ENHANCED 3 TO 9 TIMES WILL THAT CHANGE THE VIEW OF YOUR SHOT AT SAY CLOSER TARGETS I.E. 25 TO 50 YARDS????
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The scope I recommended is a fixed power one with 10 times magnification. It is not as versatile as a good 3-9x, but it is a very well made scope that is right in your price range.
If you want a 3-9x40, there are a lot of good hunting scope available in your price range, but they typically have hunting reticles. However, for your application you probably want a somewhat different reticle, like the Mil-Dot. On the other hand, if you do not plan to shoot long range with it, perhaps it does not matter. If you can extend your price range a bit a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 with MilDot is an excellent choice. Perhaps Trijicon has a LE discount, but I am not sure about that. The variable Super Sniper that Chris II referred to earlier is not here yet, so I have no idea what the price will be like. Of the less expensive 3-9x or similar scopes, there are a few options with MilDot reticle: Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 with MilDot Weaver Grand Slam Tactical 3-10x40 with MilDot If the shots are all taken at a fairly close range, then you do not necessarily need a long ranging reticle like the MilDot and the options expand considerably: Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 Sightron S2 BigSky 3-9x42 Vortex Viper 3-9x40 At closer ranges, having variable magnification is generally quite helpful, since lower magnification gives you wider field and better depth of field. ILya |
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OK HERE IS ONE FOR YOU WHAT DOES THE THE DOTS ON A MIL-DOT SCOPE MEAN WHEN YOU SEE A PIC THAT SAYS STANDARD ON ONE SIDE AND MAG. ON THE OTHER??? IS THAT THE ROUND......????? |
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HERE IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT!!!! BEING THAT I HAVE 5 DIFFERENT CALIBERS TO CHOSE FROM OF MY OWN AND AFTER WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN SAID HERE I WAS TOLD THAT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE 8 OUT OF 10 AT THE x ON A 5.5 TARGET AT A MIN. OF 250 YARDS TO MAKE THE TEAM. I HAVE AN OLD BUSHNELL ON A OLD WINCHESTER MODEL 70 7MM THAT I HAVE PRACTICING WITH AT 250 YARDS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE 8 OR 9 OUT OF 10. BUT AS I SAID THAT IS WITH AN OLD SCOPE THAT A BUDDY OF MINE HELPED ME SET AND IT IS SO WORN OUT THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE # ON THE DIALS...... SO AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT....WHAT DO YOU THINK????
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