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    Posted: November/12/2009 at 12:14
Today my boss showed me pictures of the huge Wyoming whitetail he harvested last week.  He also mentioned it took him six shots with his 300 Winchester Magnum!  When I asked why, he handed me the 3-9x Bushnell Legend which was sitting on top his Howa 1500 during his hunt.  The scope and rifle are three years old and have seen about 100 rounds.
 
When I took the scope from him, I could immediately feel something rattling around inside the tube.  Upon taking a peak through the ocular bell, I saw a reticle that was canted about 45 degrees, and a large glass chip obstructing part of the view.  My boss thinks the scope started to let go on the bumpy road trip in the back of his pick-up, and ultimately failed completely while he attempted to shoot his trophy buck.
 
He asked me what I thought he should do about this problem.  He would like to invest in a scope that can handle bumpy rides across State lines once a year.  Whacko  Unfortunately his budget is limited.  He'd like something under five bills.
 
I mentioned the Burris Fullfield line as I read that all Burris scopes use at least two support springs to position and hold the erector tube.  I'm assuming the Bushnell only uses a single spring.
 
Other than Burris, I can't say that I know of any other brands that are advertised as being any "tougher" than another brand.
 
Anyone have other ideas for him?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucytuma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 12:16
Bushnell 4200 and Leupolds are also known to be tough.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 300S&W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 13:06

  First off he needs to send that Legend back to Bushnell.

  Bushnell 4200's,Leupold's,Zeiss have withstood the test of time as have Burris scopes.  I wouldn't be afraid to try any of these:

 
  Of course he could spend a bit less and do ok:
  
 
  That's a start and I'm sure others will suggest more.
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A Zeiss will take recoil. I have both conquest and victory on my Sako 85 SS. in .375 HH.
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Any of these scopes are very rugged ,Weaver Classic Extreme,Bushnell Elite series, Zeiss Conquest.The Bushnell Legend I own has taken the abuse of hundreds of shots from my 300 WSM without a problem.Send it back for repair.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote trigger29 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 16:10
Originally posted by 300grains 300grains wrote:

A Zeiss will take recoil. I have both conquest and victory on my Sako 85 SS. in .375 HH.
The conquest to break my Conquest STILL continues. Rocky firetrails in a vehicle in the Black Hills, and a 6lb. .300 wby couldn't do it, but I'm still trying...............maybe I should run it over with my truck.Bucky

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SChunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 16:33
I have also had 12 years of success with a Leopold atop a Browning Abolt SS 7mmRem mag.  It bounces in my truck from Aug 15 - Jan 1 every year for deer season, often only in a soft case.  Adjusted vertical twice--less than 1 inch at 100 yds and 1.5 inches horizontal--in these 12 years.  Is there better glass?  Without question. Has it withstood all the shocks sent to it?  Yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SChunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 16:34
and for what it's worth, I replaced the Bushnell banner that was on the Abolt because it spun a reticle--bushnell fixed free of charge but I sold the scope.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 17:05
Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

Originally posted by 300grains 300grains wrote:

A Zeiss will take recoil. I have both conquest and victory on my Sako 85 SS. in .375 HH.


The conquest to break my Conquest STILL continues. Rocky firetrails in a vehicle in the Black Hills, and a 6lb. .300 wby couldn't do it, but I'm still trying...............maybe I should run it over with my truck.Bucky


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote glock24 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/12/2009 at 18:29
Thanks guys!  He now has plenty of information to think about.
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ive got a 4200 elite on my .375H&H and its survived 100 rounds so far.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

ive got a 4200 elite on my .375H&H and its survived 100 rounds so far.
 
I have seen a Bushnell 4200 Elite survive an UNBELIEVABLE beating and continue to work fine. Good glass quality too.
 
My old Leupold Vari-XIII has been well-traveled and beaten like a red-headed step child and still works just fine too.
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my old varixII thats on my .300win mag is the same way.
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Hard to beat a good fixed-power from any quality company.
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Just go with a Swarovski.  PH models can be had at reasonable prices now that the Z3 and Z5 have been introduced...
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Start by buying a hard case  like a pelican case as a soft case just wont protect from the same abuse.   You simply cant throw a rifle scope in the bed of a truck bounce it all over the place 4wheeling and expect it to be right - you wouldnt put the glasses from the kitchen cabinet in the back of the truck drive them down bumpy roads and expect to have anything left that would hold water. 
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Keeping the rifle in a well padded case is a good point
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1911man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/13/2009 at 19:44
You just can't go wrong with a Bushnell 4200 or Leupold VX3 series scope for ruggedness!!!!
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The rifle and scope always reside in a Plano Air-glide hard case wherever they travel.


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