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mike650
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mike650
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“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
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JF4545
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Wow!! 247.00 for 10 Rounds
Ever since I joined this forum last Spring Ive bought ammo every chance I can, probably to the point of obsession... I continue to do so, and I rat holing all kinds of brass, bullets, powder and primers...Hmmmmm, Maybe I have a "Hoarding Problem" OMG!!! Ive read about people like me!!
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mike650
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“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
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Kickboxer
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You ever watch Criminal Minds?????? maybe we should get Ed to profile you...
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John Barsness
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A lot of us have gotten into the hoarding mentality lately. Those who used to buy 100 prrimers at a time now buy 1000, and those who use to buy 1000 but 10,000. Similarly, the guys who used to buy 1-2 boxes of .30-06 a year now buy 5-10 boxes.
Which is a big part of the reason we have a "shortage."
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Steelbenz
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Who has a shortage? Oh. you mean the guys who didn't buy the 5000 CCI 250s and 5000 BR2s when they came through the door at the shop. LOL! I only roll .308s so I'm good.
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The Apostle
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Tell me about the price of ammo at the moment!!!
(Using personal example here) In Australia, you can't get any .30 calibres (such as .308 or 30-30) for under $30.00 (box of 20) at the moment.
Not unless you buy 100 or more (and then it's 10% off)...The cheapest decent brand is Federal Power-Shok Ammo in .308...individual boxes selling for $31.50 (box of 20).
I can remember 2-3 years back when .308 or 30-30 was a $1 a round!
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Preston
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The Price of Ammo is like the price of fuel... costly for no damn reason!
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Steelbenz
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Preston, you my friend are a chip off the ol' block.
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Steelbenz
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Don't hate me butt........ 168gr A-max's over 44.5 grs of Varget being lit off by CCI BR-2s or CCI 250s in a Lapua case cost me under $27.50 USD to reload for 50. and most of that cost is the bullet. Edited by Steelbenz - December/12/2009 at 09:09 |
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FOG
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I just got Federal 30-06 at around $14 a box at Wally world. I had bought my son a 30-06 for last Christmas, and figured that getting ammo would be a cinch. What a shock the past year has been.
I only buy very popular calibers, such as .308, 7.62x39,.223, .243, 9 mm, .357, .45, and .44 Magnum. I even avoid .38, because I know a .357 will eat .38 ammo, but not vice-versa. I guess I would consider others, such as .40 S&W,.30-30, .270, .338 mag, and 45-70. A good guide to the kind of calibers I choose, in order to make sure I don't end up with an orphan, is whether the low budget rifles get made in left-hand in the caliber. I agree that the unique ballstics provided by your brand new caliber are great, but I have watched a lot of wonder calibers come and go. Pity the poor guy who had a Remington 5 mm rimfire until recently, when Big Green started up again. The more common calibers tend to get the best discounts, and therefore practice ammo is more reasonable. I think that practice helps a lot more than fancy ballistics. |
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Well if you are not worried about the availability of ammo or reloading components after this last year you are either 1. not much of a shooter or 2. very well prepared.
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Steelbenz
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Billy and I are of the same mindset.
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jonoMT
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It really does come as a surprise to me that .30-06 would be in such short supply. Maybe it really is true (at least for the time being) that the common calibers aren't going to just be on the shelves anywhere you go. Still, in the long run, I'd expect to find .30-06 before something like Swiss 7.5 (and even when I owned a Schmidt-Rubin all I ever saw locally was FMJ).
Driving back and forth through East Helena (MT) this fall, I noticed signs for a couple guys advertising ammo. I wonder if they fell into that category? FWIW, I have a large amount of Greek HXP for my M1 but I bought that 3-4 years ago because I was 1) worried about the price going up (from 24.5 cents to 27 cents a round!) and 2) ammo compatible with that rifle...and I couldn't reload then or now for that little. Otherwise, aside from the S-R, the only bolt rifle caliber I've ever owned is .308 Win. Funny how that replaced the .30-06 among Service target shooters because it was twice as accurate but now is considered an inferior round to so many of the benchrest cartridges. |
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Preston
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I agree I dont think any of us are near prepared enough
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FOG
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A good rifle in .308 shoots well enough that I cannot take advantage of all its accuracy. More accuracy is only of academic interest when the rifle is in my hands for real shooting.The tests seem to indicate that many regular hunting rifles can provide one minute of accuracy at 100 yards with at least one brand of ammo. If I get three moa groups, then cutting the rifle's accuracy down to 1/2 moa might bring me down to 2 1/2 moa, but probably would not, more like 2 3/4 moa. I can dream of better groups but only practice will help me get there. When my real groups drop under 2 moa, then maybe I will start thinking about a more accurate rifle. Were my groups to drop to one moa, then I would start thinking about a more accurate caliber. |
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jonoMT
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First of all, a correction: That was posted by me, not JB.
Second, to clarify a couple things: While practice is key to getting better groups, a good to great rifle package and a cartridge/load that is generally known for accuracy are also essential. While a sub-MOA rifle won't guarantee better groups, how will you know if you're even capable of sub-MOA accuracy if the rifle isn't capable. As for the .308, most rifles using that chambering are indeed good enough that many shooters can barely take advantage of its accuracy. My point was more to do with the objective history of the .308 vs. .30-06. It's a superior cartridge for target shooting. However, it has also been shown both at the range and by the analysis done by ballisticians such as Bryan Litz that the .30 cal round (in any cartridge) usually performs (relatively) worse than a smaller caliber bullet that has both a higher BC and is heavy for caliber. Anyone that has shot a heavy-for-caliber .30 round will know that it can be hard to control recoil. In practical terms, .308s like the ones I own shoot well enough and have a number of other advantages that I don't see fit to ever replace them with anything else. A 6BR might be better in many respects, but it has only 2/3 the energy behind it @ 300 yards and I consider the .308 barely adequate to shoot an elk at that range |
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