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koshkin
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Nikon is definitely capable of making some super glass and does offer it in many products. I just happened to not like the ProStaff. I suspect that Buckmaster would be veyr competitive with Fullfield II and Diamondback. As a side note, Nikon's lithography business is not doing well. At all. ILya
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tjtjwdad
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In the semi conductor industry its pretty competitive among the tool suppliers. I do see a lot of Nikon products but I see a lot of ASML too. No Canon's here although they're also in that market.
Thanks again for the report.
Jim
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300 ultramag
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ya a sightron s1 is 135 bucks and it would fare well with all of them
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300 ultramag
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why is this site so anti- nikon
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lucytuma
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Far from anti Nikon, Nikon's have received many favorable reviews and comments here. The only negative thing I've heard about Nikon is their C/S is so so.
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mike650
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Awesome review ILya!!!
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Idaho Scot
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Good review. Thanks for the effort. Curious why you left out the Weaver Classic? Something with the scope or just had too many and needed to narrow it down?
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koshkin
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Too many. I ran a poll on which five "under $200" scopes were of most interest to forum members and compared those. I linked that thread a few posts before this one. ILya
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pyro6999
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there are quite a few prominent members here who praise nikon highly. i am one of them, im not alone. they get a bad wrap from the cs dept. |
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SD Dog
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Thanks for the review ILya.
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Shenko
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I wonder how the Diamondback would compare to a Bushnell 4200.
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pyro6999
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it would get beat, the diamond back competes with the 3200 elite
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Rancid Coolaid
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ILya, nice write-up, thanks for the hard work.
And thank you to SWFA for providing scopes to test. I appreciate the inclusion of the Barska, I'll link to this report often. (The size of the crowd that believes the marketing of Barska and BSA and Countersniper is ever-growing.) Nice work, much appreciated! |
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ceylonc
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Great review. Thanks for sharing.
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DAVE44
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Are the Plex reticles in say the Bushnell Elites and the Vortex Diamond Back similar or does the Vortex Plex reticle have thinner lines. I want to try a Vortex but dont want anything thinner than a Bushnell Plex.
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biggreen747
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Ilya - Thanks for all the hard work and a well written review. I am sure many of the other "GUN GEEKS" here as my wife likes to call me face the same situation that I often do which is friends/relatives/neighbors asking for suggestions for scopes in this price range. It is nice to have a substantive report from someone like yourself to refer to when dispensing advice.
While it's always fun for us to compare the latest and greatest high end optics this is probably one of the larger market segments simply because many people cant afford more, many others simply refuse to spend more, and sometimes it's all we really need for a given application. It's good to see new companies like Vortex raising the bar for others to follow in this class.
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helo18
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Finally got a chance to read this review. Great write up as usually. Thank you ILya! Was glad to see the Burris FFII do well. Big fan of that scope. I love mine. Well I am a Burris fan, and like all the the Burris equipment. I got to test a Diamondback a while back too, but not a direct comparison to the 3-9. I thought it was a good scope. Nice to see it get a good review.
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Tip69
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Great review ILya! I think the FFII we had did the same thing as far as bending on the outer edges..... which is why I got rid of it. Don't think I'll be getting another one either. Disappointed the Redfield didn't do better.
Not sure why because I've never spent much time with one, but not a fan of the Prostaff.. guess I just wasn't impressed and they seem overpriced. |
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take em!
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300 ultramag
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price is a big problem because most guys just wont spend the money on quality optics for me i dont see getting a better bang for your buck than a nikon monarch
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koshkin
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"Quality Optics" means something different for different people. Besides, we all have different eyes and prefer different glass. To use your example of Nikon Monarch: I did not particularly like previous generations Monarch scopes, and I dislike the current one even more (with the exception of the 2-8x32 model). They just do not work well for me and I can think of quite a few scopes that I like a lot more for similar money. For quite a few people, $200 is a lot of money to spend on a scope, and this thread was largely for them. ILya
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