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cyborg
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Posted: July/20/2010 at 12:16 |
The answer is going to be determined by each individual based upon their own eyesight. If you can see well at 150 yards for most shooting applications, then theoretically speaking a 4X can work well for you out to 600 yards. If you are having a difficult time seeing at 50 yards then it will be 200 yards tops. Add into this the quality of the glass. If the glass is very good, and a good reticle as well. a 4x will be fine for most big game applications, and typical cartridge ranges.
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supertool73
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This is not a #4 reticle, but.. http://swfa.com/Bushnell-125-8x32-Elite-6500-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P13138.aspx
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YakAk
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powerburn,
You have a good point. Almost all my shooting will 50 to 250 yards on large game The exception would be an angry brown bear that I might happen into, up close and personal. My gun is also limited to the range I like to shoot as well. So a 1-4 might be just fine, 1-6 would be even better. Then I could be talking a big increase money for the scope I want.
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powderburn
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JeffO +1 4x is adequate on hog or deer sized game out to 350-400 yds on most non mag calibers just sight in 2-3 inches high at 100 and shoot at fur out to 300 yds. At 400 you s/b about 2ft low. I have shot several groundhogs with a 4x at those ranges. What I don't think people think about enough when talking about long range shooting while hunting is the lack of a steady rest under most hunting conditions and the disconcerting wobble factor at higher magnifications when you don't have a solid rest. The 4x to me is a good compromise on this subject IMHO.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Im a big fan of the Trijicon scopes and I think the 1-4 would be very useful out to about 400 yds max and best used under 200. I prefer the triangle to the #4 but others have different tastes. I use a 1.5x amber triangle TA442 and get sub moa groups at 300 yds with my rifle sighted at 300 yds. Working off the point of the triangle is a very precise aiming point. I find the amber washes out when pointed toward street lights at night. The red and green are probably better color choices and green will appear the brightes to the eye.
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stickbow46
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+1. Conquest 3-9 or 3.5-10x50 |
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JeffO
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FWIW, I have a COnquest 1.8-5.5x38mm on my .358, and I shoot it out to 400 yards running an elevation turret. Works fine. 4x is plenty for "utility" shooting out to 400 yds IMHO.
But you will WANT more <grin>.
If you can find one, consider the scope I mention above. It has fantastic low light performance for the money. It is better than my 3-9 Conquests in that regard, and hangs right with my Swaro AV 3-10x42.
It is a BIG SCOPE though so be advised.
Gotta get my eyeballs on one of them Trijicons.....
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lucytuma
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I personally would be comfortable with shots at 200yds with 4x. After that, I think I'd like a little more magnification. |
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Rancid Coolaid
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I have the Trijicon 3-9 and the 2.5-10; the 2.5-10 is noticeably brighter, and noticeably larger!
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YakAk
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Thanks for the help supertool73.
Cheers,
Steve
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supertool73
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Just saw your other topic. If low light it your biggest need then I would go with the Trijicon all the way. If you don't feel like 1-4x is quite enough, jump to the 3-9x. They are fantastic scopes IMO. Great optics and the illumination is awesome.
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YakAk
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2-7x in what brand? Hopefully something in at least Zeiss Conquest quality or better with a #4 reticle.
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supertool73
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Why not a 2-7x then. Pretty much the same bottom end, but a nice jump on the top end.
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YakAk
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My last Scope was 3.5-12x44. It seemed I was always set on about 6 power. It seemed like plenty. Although I would dial up sometimes for certain shots
Steve
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YakAk
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I would be hunting deer, moose and bear in Akaska. Also how would it be for zeroing at 100 yards? |
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Depends on the target. Much easier to hit a building than a fly.
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It would depend upon what I was shooting at. If its a varmint or a yote or steel target I have no problem shooting 500 to 700 yards with my 4x on my AR. It has a BDC that is pretty close.
If it were big game that it was very important I made a clean hit it would be much less. |
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YakAk
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Whats the longest shot you would take with thi scope at 4 power.
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