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    Posted: January/07/2012 at 08:05
.....If I do what I'm thinking about doing, and it's largely your fault BTW.  I hope you know, I always appreciate your expertise, whether I agree with it 100% or not.  In this case you have peaked my interest in the VX6, with, of all things, a 30mm tube.  Even if I "don't need" the bigger tube, I may wring one out shortly. 

In another thread you remarked about the glass.  After a little more research, you, once again, are right on.  The powers that be at Leupold tell me it's a step up from the VX7, which I do know first hand had fantastic glass.  It's supposedly overall a step up from the VX7 in every way, I was told. 
I was also told the one I'm looking at, the 2-12 x42 w/plex reticle, has a pop up CDS compatible dial built in.  Do you know if that's true? The pics show a standard screw on cover, but I"m told it's underneath there.  Another question......one site shows a 120 MOA adjustment range @ 100 yds, while the VX3 CDS has 58 MOA.  Does this sound right?  As I said, I don't think I'd ever come close to needing it, but is it there?

I hope you know, since this is mostly your fault, I'm going to have to eat some serious humble pie around here and tell everyone I was wrong and did indeed join the "dark side".  Thanks a lot ! Smile
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

I'm going to have to eat some serious humble pie around here and tell everyone I was wrong
 
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 HEY!  There's absolutely nothing wrong with a little Humble Pie.
 
 
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N i i c e 300.......I know Bitterroot, it's a bitter pill to swallow, and I haven't even bought the darn thing yet.  I may be already guilty for just thinking about it.  I gave my FX to a good kid down the street, and gave my coonass hunting buddy the Elite, so I need something else.......
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

N i i c e 300.......I know Bitterroot, it's a bitter pill to swallow, and I haven't even bought the darn thing yet.  I may be already guilty for just thinking about it.  I gave my FX to a good kid down the street, and gave my coonass hunting buddy the Elite, so I need something else.......
 
I am interested to get your take on the VX-6, JG.
 
As far as tube size goes, that has got to be one of the silliest things to argue about either way, so the humble pie shouldn't be too bitter...
 
and if you need to give anything else away, throw me a PM, it is probably time you moved out of that Prominar.
 
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

.....If I do what I'm thinking about doing, and it's largely your fault BTW.  I hope you know, I always appreciate your expertise, whether I agree with it 100% or not.  In this case you have peaked my interest in the VX6, with, of all things, a 30mm tube.  Even if I "don't need" the bigger tube, I may wring one out shortly. 

In another thread you remarked about the glass.  After a little more research, you, once again, are right on.  The powers that be at Leupold tell me it's a step up from the VX7, which I do know first hand had fantastic glass.  It's supposedly overall a step up from the VX7 in every way, I was told. 
I was also told the one I'm looking at, the 2-12 x42 w/plex reticle, has a pop up CDS compatible dial built in.  Do you know if that's true? The pics show a standard screw on cover, but I"m told it's underneath there.  Another question......one site shows a 120 MOA adjustment range @ 100 yds, while the VX3 CDS has 58 MOA.  Does this sound right?  As I said, I don't think I'd ever come close to needing it, but is it there?

I hope you know, since this is mostly your fault, I'm going to have to eat some serious humble pie around here and tell everyone I was wrong and did indeed join the "dark side".  Thanks a lot ! Smile


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Not a problem.  I do it all the time.  Bucky
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I think the illuminated long range duplex looks interesting in the 2-12. It should be great for coyote and fox. I was already on the dark side so it won't be a problem.

 

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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

 
I am interested to get your take on the VX-6, JG.
 
As far as tube size goes, that has got to be one of the silliest things to argue about either way, so the humble pie shouldn't be too bitter...
 
and if you need to give anything else away, throw me a PM, it is probably time you moved out of that Prominar.
 
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Do any of you guys know the answer to my CDS/VX6 question?  A couple of sites, Cabelas and Midway, lead me to believe it's already CDS compatible.  Other sites make no mention of it. 

Thanks for piling on pyro.......Smile
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Leupold says the VX-6 is good to go with CDS.

http://www.leupold.com/CDS/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
edited for live link.


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The only thing I've seen is a promotion for free custom calibrated CDS dials for VX-3 and R scopes. Maybe that was extended to the VX-6. I am not a tactical scope user like some of our members.  But, those would seem to contradict the need for the long range duplex. Though, holdover reticles should be faster than dialing.
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
 HEY!  There's absolutely nothing wrong with a little Humble Pie.
 
 

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

The only thing I've seen is a promotion for free custom calibrated CDS dials for VX-3 and R scopes. Maybe that was extended to the VX-6. I am not a tactical scope user like some of our members.  But, those would seem to contradict the need for the long range duplex. Though, holdover reticles should be faster than dialing.


As Bitterroot says, the CDS offer now includes the VX6 as per their website.   I'm not the least bit a tactical guy. I've bee a MPBR guy for almost 40 yrs and it works well.  I did try a CDS VX3 last season, though, out of curiosity.  I couldn't find a good buck to shoot, but was amazed at how easy (no wind to speak of) it was to bust plate sized rocks out to 600 yards with a simple twist of that CDS.  I had a muley hunter this past Nov and we briefly looked at a double drop tined, 210" bruiser at app 435 yards.  He gave us about a 15 second window and I'm wondering if the hunter had a CDS, M1, etc dial if he would have been able to kill that buck.   As with most really big muley bucks, you only see them once, and that was the last we ever saw of him. 
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I'm thinking have both the reticle and the dials.  Then, if time allows, dial.

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

I'm thinking have both the reticle and the dials.  Then, if time allows, dial.

 
You mean like the Vortex Viper HS LR scopes?
 
I agree that is the best setup for actual hunting use in the field.
 
The Vortex BDC also has windage marks on the main crosshair for dial-and-hold shooting.
 
Swarovski has a new windage reticle for use with their turret dialing scopes as well.
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

The only thing I've seen is a promotion for free custom calibrated CDS dials for VX-3 and R scopes. Maybe that was extended to the VX-6. I am not a tactical scope user like some of our members.  But, those would seem to contradict the need for the long range duplex. Though, holdover reticles should be faster than dialing.


As Bitterroot says, the CDS offer now includes the VX6 as per their website.   I'm not the least bit a tactical guy. I've bee a MPBR guy for almost 40 yrs and it works well.  I did try a CDS VX3 last season, though, out of curiosity.  I couldn't find a good buck to shoot, but was amazed at how easy (no wind to speak of) it was to bust plate sized rocks out to 600 yards with a simple twist of that CDS.  I had a muley hunter this past Nov and we briefly looked at a double drop tined, 210" bruiser at app 435 yards.  He gave us about a 15 second window and I'm wondering if the hunter had a CDS, M1, etc dial if he would have been able to kill that buck.   As with most really big muley bucks, you only see them once, and that was the last we ever saw of him. 
 
I used CDS three times this fall. Very simple.
The first was on a proghorn - temp. mid 70's - elevation 3200ish - 302 yds
The second was on a mule deer - temp. 14 below - elevation 3200ish - 414 yds
the third was on a mule deer - temp mid 30's - elevation 5000ish - 212 yds
I worked flawlessly range dial shoot that quick. One shot for each easy and saves on ammo to boot.
 
I see most of the manufacturers are going to this too bad did not have this 10 years ago?
 
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