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rustic
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Nice Have you used it much in the snow. |
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I had six inches of snow on it, it bowed in quite a ways, but held. It also stood up to some pretty good wind gusts once.
That said, it is an early season shelter for me. The late season sees me finding shelter in a nice wall tent with a stoked stove and a propane lantern. As far as the scope goes, I have had great luck with my little Vortex Viper. I have also owned many Leupolds, and used them with success. I have had the aluminas, and liked them better than BC covers, but the magnets came out a couple times, and, like the BCs, they still came open sometimes (especially when getting my rifle in and out of my Eberlestock backscabbard. Now I use a scopecoat, and like it a lot. It also protects the whole scope.
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rustic
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Therm-a-Rest
Sleeping pads -
http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/mattresses/fast-and-light/neoair-xlite/product Disclaimer: In no way saying this gear is better than any other just, I have used it under harsh varied conditions it passed with flying colors. When people I have hunted with this fall were fighting with their gear I was still out hunting. This may or may not work in a area near you. Edited by rustic - January/11/2012 at 21:31 |
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rustic
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What is the size your tarptent packs down to? I use a three season tent it is a little on the bulky side. Did you have any problem with leupold replacing aluminas? I have never had to take any accessories back to leupold. My scopecoat that came with scope is awful tight to take on and off. |
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Nice disclaimer rustic. Guess we have given you enough crap abou it huh? For a scope, I look for quality glass and durability more than the few ounces of weight savings. Not saying you have to spend 1000+, but I just like the best glass for the money combo and then for feature for the hunting style and gun I am shooting. For a scope cover, I have actually gone away from flip ups of any kind. I use the Scopeshield. It was originally sent to me by a member here on this forum to test, and I can't say enough good about it after hunting with it in all conditions for the last few years. It comes off faster than opening two covers. Protects the whole scope, not just the lenses.
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Gaiters - These are real nice pack light and small. Super easy to put on.
http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/or-gear/gaiters/alpine/verglas-gaiters-m-s.html Disclaimer: In no way saying this gear is better than any other just, I have used it under harsh varied conditions it passed with flying colors. When people I have hunted with this fall were fighting with their gear I was still out hunting. This may or may not work in a area near you. |
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The rifles I have are only $400-$500 Tikkas lower end scopes seem to suit them fine. Although the new savage I have on order might call for something a little "higher" up. Of course, the rifle only weighs 5.5 pounds. A set up weighing in at under 6 1/2 pounds would be sweet. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LH Scope shield is the brand? Might have to go that way if I don't go with leupold... to protect lens. |
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Yes sir. The ScopeShield.
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Recoil pads? My tikka .308 has no real recoil. It has a limbsaver on it there is really no need for it. Does anyone know of a lighter better brand of pad? The limbsaver is quite heavy I did not realize that till tonight when I took it off.
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Bitterroot Bulls
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The tarp tent packs down into almost nothing, like 12x4. I did not send the aluminas to Leupold, I epoxied the magnets back in. I have not had any trouble with the on/off of my scope coat. I use a Thermarest Neoair mattress. I have Kenetrek gaiters that are similar in design, build and function to the OR gaiters. |
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Sleeping bags - I have a western mountaineering alder mf the specs say it is good 25F but, I have had mine down to around zero or below with no discomfort in any way. It packs down less in size than a nerf football and less than 2 pounds. It is roomier than a mummy bag while not cheap it is a bargain because of piece of mind.
http://www.westernmountaineering.com/index.cfm?section=Products&page=Sleeping%20Bags&cat=Microfiber%20Series&ContentId=22 Disclaimer: In no way saying this gear is better than any other just, I have used it under harsh varied conditions it passed with flying colors. When people I have hunted with this fall were fighting with their gear I was still out hunting. This may or may not work in a area near you. |
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I have the similarly-spec'd Big Agnes Zirkel SL (2 pounds, tiny, 20 deg.) and it has the bonus that you can't roll off your pad! Those Western Mountaineering bags are awesome also. Feathered Friends and Marmot also make great ultralight down bags. |
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This looks pretty sweet a free standing truly ultra light 2 person tent. Plenty of space for one and ones gear. A bit steep on price might have to look in to can use for backpacking and spike camp.
https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/FlyCreek2Platinum |
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It has been 80 degrees during the day here for a couple of weeks now. One of the few good things about this place... ILya
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This is new - 2.6oz wow. I have the pocket rocket - 3oz works great but, going to have to upgrade.
http://cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/rapid-cooking/microrocket/product I use only the smaller pot at less than 4oz non-stick stove fits inside pot real nice. http://www.osograndeknives.com/Brunton/BNFIBCOOKSET.htm Disclaimer: In no way saying this gear is better than any other just, I have used it under harsh varied conditions it passed with flying colors. When people I have hunted with this fall were fighting with their gear I was still out hunting. This may or may not work in a area near you. |
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I thought this stuff was supposed to be within a budget? Who's budget, the Federal Government?
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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Cool topic. I'm hiking from the south rim of the Grand Canyon and camping at a place called Indian Gardens. I'm going the first of March so I imagine it's gonna be cold. I've been trying to do research because I need ultra light stuff including tent and sleeping bag. I bought a Marmot Limelight 2 tent. It weighs nearly 6 pounds. I'm debating on getting something smaller and lighter. Any ideas on a good...zero degree...I imagine ultra light sleeping bag for under 250 dollars? There's a store near me that has a Kelty light year 0 degree bag for 230ish. Also I was looking at that MSR pocket rocket stove for boiling water.
I'd hate to get down there and freeze to death. |
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I have a pocket rocket, which is OK. My main stove is the Jetboil SOL ti. It is tiny, and everything you need is included, peizo-lighter, stand, cup, fuel. It's biggest advantage over the pocket rocket is its wind resistance. It also uses significantly less fuel. Taking only one canister is a good way to save weight.
You're absolutely right, but, like in optics, you pay for the good stuff.
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Hard to get into the ultralight 0 deg. area on sleeping bags at $250. This is not a down bag, so it won't pack as small, but is still pretty light. It must be used with a 20X72 pad (standard Thermarest or many other pads), but the design is really nice. You put the pad in a sleeve of the bag, so you don't roll off the pad. You also save the weight of the insulation on the bottom of the bag. You don't use that insulation anyway (you're laying on it). If you can go up to 15 deg. (I would), this bag is quite a bit lighter. I had thsi bag for years and loved it: On the tent, you can do a lot better than six pounds. Look at designs from MSR, Big Agnes, and Tarptent.
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I read somewhere the jetboil system is top-heavy and tips over easily? I looked at on line looks to be a good system. Some things you just can not get by on the cheap. Believe me I have tried learned the hard way. That is why I started this thread. My on going trial and error might help somebody out. I have bought more than my fair share of low/mid/high end stuff and it turned out to be just not suited to plain junk. happy hunting/trails |
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