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    Posted: April/10/2012 at 18:39
Straight tube (no objective swell) conventional crosshair (non illuminated), 1" tube,  full length (at least 9").  The only thing I can find close is the rimfire/ultralight Leupold, but it is too short to mount.  I would like to find something like the old Weaver K2.5 or similar.  Curious how the used price on those can now exceed what they sold for new and no scope maker wants to participate in this product class.  There is a LOT of old guys out there, like me, that prefer more traditional stuff.
 
A few years ago, one of the moderators here polled us about interest in a 3X on behalf of Leupold.  Response seemed enthusiastic, but apparently nothing came of it.
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PERFECT!  I can't believe I missed this.  I need to pay attention.  A little pricey but I'll get one.  Maybe 2. Thanks.  btw, is this an SWFA exclusive?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 300S&W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/10/2012 at 19:28
 
  Nope.  It's a product from Leupold that was brought about by the requests from guys like us who wanted them.  You can also have extras done by their custom shop.
 
 
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I wouldn't try.  SWFA made it happen, so SWFA gets the biz.  I just got outbid at ebay on a Leupold Alaskan 2.5X at $405.  This is exactly what I was looking for.  One spec I would like to know is missing though--occular diameter.  My Ruger 77/22's like them to be 1.5" or less for low mounts.  Can you supply this spec for me?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 300S&W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/10/2012 at 21:34
 
 Only info I can find right now is that all OD and length dimensions are suppose to match the old M8.
 
 I'm also doing some checking on the possibility that these scopes just may be a SWFA exclusive.
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Just saw this post. I have one and can measure it tonight when I get home from work...if you'd like! BTW, it's a nice scope. Excellent
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Bugs, please, If it is a 1.6 (which I suspect it is) then I will just get one for my lever action.  If it is a 1.4 or 1.5 then it will work on my Ruger 77/22 with low rings.
 
300S&W, it would seem you are at least the de facto exclusive dealer.   Haven't found one anywhere else. 
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To my knowledge these scopes are the only SWFA Exclusives.  That said SWFA Stocks more inventory than most and tries to keep the entire lineup on hand so it may just be that nobody else stocks that scope.
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  Seems these scopes are available through Leupold's custom shop BUT you can't order online.  You must contact them by phone.  Other than that we're it I guess.
 
 
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Several posters at the 24 hour campsite forum are raving about their 3X's from the custom shop.  But, they had em tricked out with a bunch of weird stuff.  I don't think I need a German reticle.  Crimeny, I should feel lucky I'm getting one WITHOUT a Chinese reticle!
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  What's a Chinese reticle look like?   Big Grin
 
  I have a 2.5x20 with the hvy plex which I like for low light or hvy cover hunting. 
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The German #1 is one of my favorite heavy cover reticles. Very fast and to the point.
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That's cool. Good on Leupold and SWFA for making that available. Before I got into long range shooting I used a 2.5X scout scope and a 4X FX-II (which I still have on my trainer .22). They're all you need for a max. PBR zero.
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Originally posted by wolfee wolfee wrote:

Bugs, please, If it is a 1.6 (which I suspect it is) then I will just get one for my lever action.  If it is a 1.4 or 1.5 then it will work on my Ruger 77/22 with low rings.
 
300S&W, it would seem you are at least the de facto exclusive dealer.   Haven't found one anywhere else. 


Eyeball (without calipers) it is about 1 7/16 inches or 38mm. It's most definitely below 1.5 inches. Hope that helps. Big Grin


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Yes, thanks. All the specs I see from Leupold seem to be either 1.4 or 1.6.  Maybe that means it is a 1.4 (or whatever they round off to 1.4).  I am pickier than most about bolt clearance.  On a Ruger 77/22 the bolt is 2 pc and has considerable wiggle in it.  Most are not bothered by "wiggling" the handle past the eyepiece but I am.
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  What's a Chinese reticle look like?   Big Grin
 
It looks just like an Ameican reticle, but it only costs 1/3 as much and falls out of the scope after the recoil from 5 rounds of 22 shorts.
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While at one time, that characterization was accurate, it is rapidly becoming untrue.  I don't care for the Chinese government/politics, the business practices of government subsidized businesses, etc, but the Chinese people are learning and catching up in the world of production.  There are still plenty of LOUSY Chinese produced scopes, but there are a number that are on a lot of "must have" lists...
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Kickboxer, you are 100% right.  So, can we declare you to be the last word on the subject and spare ourselves an arduous 300 post thread on Chinese politics.  PLEEEAASE!
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