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DEADTIME
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Just bought a savage 110 FCP 338, what a manly gun! But I digress. I need a scope that will live through hundreds of rounds happily and hold zero.
My beautiful wife has allowed me to purchase 5 firearms this year so I'm trying to not spend to much on a scope, maybe less than 1000 bucks. I do have a few scopes to trade in to SWFA so that might bring down what I pay out of pocket. I've done some research and found 3 favorites but please if you have first hand knowledge gimme a reply. The scopes I've looked at are the Millet LRS, the sightron SIII, and finally a Zeiss. All must have at a minimum a 50mm lens up front and a 30mm tube but it can be bigger. I'd also like illuminated. Gimme your ideas guys but please don't suggest an 8 trillion dollar Swarovski, night force, US Optics etc. I can't print money like our dear leader. |
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FireEMT5
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Only my opinion here, not backed by extensive optics experience. I'd look at the SS 5-20x50 or the Vortex Razor 5-20. Both are available with lit reticles, both rated for .50 Cal and both have lifetime no B.S. warranties to boot.
If you have to have one soon, I'd lean towards Vortex as the SS-5-20 is Vaporware at the moment with no word on when more stock might be in.
I have a non. illum. version of the SS 5-20 on my .308. Love everything about it, except the weight, but I knew it was heavy going in, so that's my fault not the scope's. I'd certainly put another SS 5-20 on a bigger gun without a second thought. The clarity of the glass is nothing short of amazing, and considering it's price point one could argue that it has no competition for the cost - IMHO.
Both scopes will be above your $1000 budget, but if you have some items to trade in, you'd likely get below for the SS. Keep an eye out on the Sample list or S.H. for sale section if you are looking for something slightly used. With both brands slightly used is no big deal as the great warranties still apply. May as well save a few $'s if you care to go that way.
Don't forget a good set of rings too. I personally like Aadmount triple lugs - they are really overbuilt and give you an extra margin of "feel good" confidence.
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SVT_Tactical
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First things first. Take the millet thought and forget it.
The Sightron SIII is a good scope as well as the SS 5-20 mentioned above. Both will have plenty of elevation travel to stretch the 338 out like it should.
Another thought is to keep your eye here on the samplelist
There are some amazing deals that show up on there and you can still trade in towards those items with SWFA, they run that site. You just have to call and they can do the transaction.
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Chris Farris II
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jonoMT
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Sell a firearm if you have to but don't skimp on a scope for a .338. A heavier scope will just help with the recoil so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Rancid Coolaid
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the S3 was a bit elevation-limited, something like 50-60 MOA. For a 338LM, I'd want more. I tested one awhile back, maybe Sightron has remedied that with a newer version. If so, be sure you get the new version, you'll want more than 50MOA total elevation travel. I've owned 2 of the SS5-20, it is among the best 20X optics I have used. If you can get one, it is worth overshooting youtr budget by a bit to do so. Lastly, get good rings, don't script there! I'd recommend the aadmount 6-screw variant or badger max50s. Your gun will make some recoil, and if it has a brake, it'll be even tougher on the optic.
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supertool73
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The sightron website says 100 moa for the s3 6-24x
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Sparky
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What are you going to do with this rifle and what ranges are we talking about? Why a 50mm objective? If you are target shooting with your budget and you could deal with a 42mm objective, I would look at a SS 10x HD for about $800. Many people shoot at 1000yds and farther with a 10x. That will also give you some more funds for ammo which is expensive for a 338LM. http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P50717.aspx |
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Sub-$1k: Sightron S3 6-24x50 or Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50
Over $1k: SWFA SS 5-20x50, Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 Purely for target shooting: for $300 you can get SWFA SS 10x42, 12x42 or 16x42 with Mil-Quad reticle and 0.1mrad turrets ILya
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Steelbenz
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Yeah Dan, that was my thoughts too! If you can afford to feed the beast you should be able to put good glass on the gal.
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Sparky
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DEADTIME
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Well I might be going with an SS scope, the 5-20x50 illuminated is on the top of my list along with the sightron SIII. Anyone know if the the SS HD is 338 survivable? Many of them say 50 bmg ok but the particular model I like doesn't mention if it's large caliber friendly.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-5-20x50-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P51642.aspx |
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It will withstand the .338LM... and then some...
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Bigdaddy0381
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That scope will make the 338LP recoil its biootch. I have beat, banged, threw ,tossed, kicked my SS just to try'n and brake it. it held zero when put back on the rifle. Oh it's held 25 50bmg and some 338rum ,and 300rum and some 243 rounds while trying to brake it. honestly if you get this scope you will be all giggles and not have one moment of buyers remorse. |
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I almost added you ran over one with a truck, but then I remembered that was a 10X SS.
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Bigdaddy0381
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yeah, I have not tested this scope with the "monster truck test" yet... Hunting season is about to kick off. Might be tested soon. |
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If I was trying to scope it and keep the cost down I would look at a 16x42MQ Super Sniper and use that while I saved up for what I really want. The most important factor is having a lot of internal adjustment. Good glass would be the next consideration and the HD version of the 10x42 Super Sniper has very good glass and would be a solid choice but no illumination, sometimes samplelist.com has a used one at a good value. Once you get in that thousand dollar plus range the 5-20 Super Sniper is the best choice until you get into the cost of U.S. Optics and Heinsoldts. If you can afford the 5-20 SS you wont ever need to upgrade.
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