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kickin45
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I agree.
So what conclusion have we arrived at on the scopes? Their top tier seem to be pretty nice, but at their higher price point, several other top brands come into the picture. All the other scopes they make are Chinese. I'd rather not spend $3-400 on a Chinese made scope. Phillipines I wouldn't hesitate and own several Phil made scopes. Excellent quality and glass in my experience. I've never had good fortune with Chinese made scopes. I've tried Hawke, Falcon ands few other "upper tier" CH made scopes. Tracking has always been off a bit and the glass on both is quite hazey at higher mags. This was about 4 years ago, so unless the QC has come up severely, I'll stay away from the Chinese made scopes. |
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cheaptrick
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OT is a hot range. If you make statements, your gonna have to back it up to some degree.
As Bud alluded to, we've had our fair share of spooks come through here proclaiming the virtues of some new company. Carry on. |
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Son of Ed
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fiveshotdot
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I spoke with Trent today at Athlon and got some insight on a few things. He and the owner both came from another "elite" scope manufacturing company. Their top tier scopes use the same glass as other "elite" scopes on the market. (Or that is what I understood) they are planning on Offering 2 spotting scopes in the argos line with reticles next year . BTR is a designatiin for illuminated reticle. Their midas btr series is meant to compete with the pst and leupy mk4?(don't quote me on that one). They plan on putting out a lower magnification ffp cronus in the near future as well.
As of now this is all the information I can recall. I left my notes in my shop at work. I will also be taking a trip to their facility in the coming week amd will check back in here. A friend and myself will be checking on becoming dealers if we like what we see. |
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budperm
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It's always good to have another quality scope manufacturer to choose from.
I hope they turn out to have the right mindset and drive to put out quality affordable optics...
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Peddler
Optics God Joined: July/04/2012 Location: Oswego,NY Status: Offline Points: 13526 |
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FWIW, it doesn't appear many dealers are knocking their doors down to buy their scopes. I just googled dealers within 500 miles and not one appeared.
Maybe it's to early in the game to tell, maybe they will be OK. |
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budperm
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Question is will they just re-spin the Elites they are familiar with or will they break some new ground...
If re-spun elites are all they will do I don't expect them to last long at all. Secondly, Only their top o line is Japanese, all the rest are Chinese. This doesn't gmake me warm and fuzzy... China can put out decent optics but the QC policing required kills the cost savings for OEM...
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kickin45
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I as well hope they succeed in ther endeavors.
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driller2948
Optics GrassHopper Joined: January/21/2016 Location: Red Oak Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Newbie here!
I pulled the trigger on a Talos 4-14X44 ffp. Mainly a hunter and don’t own any high end
scopes. This scope will be mounted on my new SWFA/Seekins .223 wylde AR15
varmint gun. Will be compared to a
couple of Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 VMR-1 MRAD FFP Reticle. One is mounted on a Savage model 12VLP .308,
the other custom savage model 12VLP 6mm AI Brux bull barrel. I know there is a lot of skepticism about Athlon and their Chinese
product scopes. I was on a budget and
the other options in no particular order. Falcon Menace, Primary Arms, Burris. Not kidding myself, usually tend to get what
you pay for. Out of all I mentioned and
a few others I didn’t. This scope just seemed
to fit my intended purpose with a budget in place. All in all it would make a very nice scope
for my 10/22. Will let you know what I think
within the next week or so! Solute! |
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budperm
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Welcome to the OT 2948!!!
We'd definitely be interested in any detailed review!
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Rancid Coolaid
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The first time you walk into a car dealership to buy a car, the salesman is your buddy, wants to help, and is immensely knowledgeable of not only his offering but the offering of others, right? After all, he sells cars, he is a professional, he only has my best interests at heart, right?
After buying 5 or more cars, I bet you walk into a dealership with a VERY different mindset, attitude, and set of expectations. Some of us have bought more than 100 scopes, used hundreds more, and have done this dance many, many times before. There exists, within the natural universe, possible events and probabilities of those events. It is not statistically impossible that a person could have a heart attack while being bitten by a shark that is being struck by lightning. The probabilities of each event is low, of all events simultaneously occurring, even lower, but always with a non-zero probability. Hearing that a $300 scope is in every way the equal of a well established $1500 scope (with a stellar reputation for optic, mechanical precision, and support), and that said $300 comes from a new maker, that statement gets a well-deserved probability, non-zero, but close. A guy once told me that a VW bug was the fastest production car in the world in the first 75 feet. Saying it didn't make it true, no matter how emphatic he was. We are welcoming and always want to hear new things. It helps if we can comprehend the statements made, that requires a certain agreement about how written language works. Your experiences might well differ from mine, each is a data point, one neither proves nor disproves the other; but I do have lots of data points!
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Peddler
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Well said RC.
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Sparky
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+1!
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driller2948
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Not drink'in tha coolaid just yet.
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Peddler
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budperm
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Jeff doesn't NEED cuss words....
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Magnumdood
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I just built an AR-15 for my daughter. I bought it a part at a time. I purchased nothing but the best available parts. It cost every bit as much as the other high-end ARs that are sold already assembled. It shoots every bit as well as any AR on any range. I guess my point is, you can get an AR now for around $500 -$600. But it's going to be a 4 to 5 MOA rifle rather than a 1/4 - 1/2 MOA rifle.
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wranglerdog
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Bud perm ill start off by saying you and your little group here should put a warning lable on this fourm saying speak at your own risk . let me explain i have never heard such remarks about one guy offering a helping opinion about a $360.00 scope . the statments i made about the athlon scope were made because someone ask for for some knowledge about the scope and no one on the fourm had any answers other than myself at that time .
Just to clear up a few things. i proably have as much experience in hunting and shooting than anyone on this fourm I personally own the four scopes that i was useing as an example i wasn't just throwing out a bunch of bullsh*t . i am still standing behind what i said about the athlon scope how ever that is my personal opinion and untill you can prove me wrong i wouldnt be so quick to pounce on my statement. Have a great day. |
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cheaptrick
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Lighten up, Francis......We get it...you like Athlon.
Edited by cheaptrick - February/03/2016 at 04:18 |
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fiveshotdot
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Just to let you all know, I will be visiting Athlons Lenexa, ks location to preview their scopes. I will try to post a youtube link after my visit.
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