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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

I don't think the animal would know the difference at short range. Hit it in the right place end of story.


Yeah who cares, some just like to stir the pot.  Ted has over engineered this one in a great way, no way you gonna win.  Big Grin
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Yep, but right now the Creedmoor rules the Peddler household with two of 'em!

They kill Whitetails toooo, well I better qualify that. Hers does mine has only killed paper so far.😂
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It's a little known fact that Billy Dixon did not use a .50-90 Sharps to make his famous 1 mile kill at the Battle of Adobe Walls as is widely reported, but instead, it was an early prototype of the 7mm-08!Cool
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I think I just wet myself!!!
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If the Germans had had more of these

and fewer of these

the outcome of the war would have been the same give or take a week or two.
Just sayin.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

It's a little known fact that Billy Dixon did not use a .50-90 Sharps to make his famous 1 mile kill at the Battle of Adobe Walls as is widely reported, but instead, it was an early prototype of the 7mm-08!Cool

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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

If the Germans had had more of these

and fewer of these

the outcome of the war would have been the same give or take a week or two.
Just sayin.


Great examples of German over engineering. ;-)
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Thanks Mike
To the relation of the topic at hand, The Tiger had an 88mm gun (88mm x L56 if I remember correctly), and the Panther had a 75mm x L70 gun. While the 88 had greater armor penetration at normal combat ranges (at least for the German panzers), the 75 L70 had higher penetration capabilities than the 88 at the far edges of those ranges. Giving the Panther the long range edge over the Tiger.
This comparison does not include the King Tiger with it's 88mm x L70 gun, which would be like comparing the 7-08 to the 300 Win Mag.Big Smile
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30-cal or BUST!
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One of my favorite words.😎
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Thanks Mike
To the relation of the topic at hand, The Tiger had an 88mm gun (88mm x L56 if I remember correctly), and the Panther had a 75mm x L70 gun. While the 88 had greater armor penetration at normal combat ranges (at least for the German panzers), the 75 L70 had higher penetration capabilities than the 88 at the far edges of those ranges. Giving the Panther the long range edge over the Tiger.
This comparison does not include the King Tiger with it's 88mm x L70 gun, which would be like comparing the 7-08 to the 300 Win Mag.Big Smile


I like the analogy.      Tank  my 7mm.08  Bandito


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That's cool, Mike! WOW...love those old tanks. 
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Oh Mike, I just got a chubby.

That's a Ausf. A model. Was that in a private collection in California?
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

30-cal or BUST!

Looks like RC is gonna "stick to his guns". 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

30-cal or BUST!

Looks like RC is gonna "stick to his guns". 

I think he's talking about the 300 Win Mag.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2016 at 16:21
Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Oh Mike, I just got a chubby.

That's a Ausf. A model. Was that in a private collection in California?


Yes, the collector Jacques Littlefield has since passed, the panther and rest of the military collection moved to "The Collings Foundation", Stow, MA.
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You are such a cool Dad, Mike. 
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WINKLE!!!!!!
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Originally posted by DCAMM94 DCAMM94 wrote:

WINKLE!!!!!!

It's got such a cool ring too it. Big Grin
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