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    Posted: December/16/2016 at 08:42

Hey guys! I picked up a used Schmidt and Bender Klassic 3-12x42 #L7 illuminated reticle yesterday. My first S&B and the craftsmanship is great, like I have read about. I like most everything about it but I took it hunting yesterday afternoon and glassed deer till it was really dark. I had my 6.5 rifle with a Leica ER 2.5-10X42 #1 with me.

I have looked at one S&B 2.5-10X56 a while back and it is a 20 year old scope. It looked great but at dusk it was kind of hazy looking compared to a Zeiss. Well my new S&B is the same way. Comparing it to my Leica yesterday evening, I could see deer with both but the Leica was clearer looking/sharper but I could not make out the deer any better(if that makes any sense). I went between them both a lot and couldn't say one was any better than the other but the Klassik looked kind of hazy looking. Is this normal in S&B's ?

I got them back out about 8:30 last night and was looking at my bow target and my daughters play set in my backyard about 75 yrds. And in the dark, little bit of moonlight the S&B was sharper and nicer by a reasonable margin. It was not hazy or cloudy looking. So it only seemed to appear that way at last light(??).



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So no flare from a setting sun.

Someone will chime in with experience with those scopes. I have seen something similar, but only due to optic having issue with the incoming light. From your description, this isn't and incident light issue.
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Can't comment on the Klassic, but my PMIIs look super clear even in low light.
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Stray light control.  You do not have to look directly into the light to get some scatter.

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Well, I mounted the S&B on my 6.5x55 and have hunted one morning and one evening. I have not seen the flare again. I really like the scope a lot. I guess that first day I looked at it, was just the right conditions. Plus, I guess it's not fair to compare two scopes when one is mounted to a rifle and the other is loose/hand held.

Pretty pleased with it so far !


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Not really trying to keep this one alive but I did figure it out.

I did not mention at the beginning of this post that I wear glasses(very old ones at that). I was hunting yesterday evening in the same stand. Something with my head position and glasses has to do with the haze at dusk. Since the S&B is mounted on the gun now, I can move my head slightly and it clears up perfectly.

I will say though, after my hunt last night that this S&B is one of the best scopes I have ever used.



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I once had a S&B 6x… agree that it was one of the best scopes I've ever used.  A friend wanted it really badly, so I sold it to him… have never really forgiven myself.
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Schmidt & Bender scopes are awesome! I have a 1.5-6X42 Zenith with #9 Flashdot reticle and a 4X36 Klassik with #8 reticle. I won't be parting with either during my lifetime.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Schmidt & Bender scopes are awesome! I have a 1.5-6X42 Zenith with #9 Flashdot reticle and a 4X36 Klassik with #8 reticle. I won't be parting with either during my lifetime.

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