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Mikhail
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Very very nice sight. Cant believe i missed them but then they were a bit out of my price range. Its small size would be great on a handgun and i loved the different reticle choices. For fast targeting close range shooting i can see how the 8moa dot would be nice to have. As for the Athlon RD13 i bought i really like it. The sight looks and feels like its extremely well made and the lifetime warranty is nice to have to. It came very well packaged and once mounted it gives a perfect mid-level co-witness for my popup sights. It has a very generous sight picture with plenty of viewing area. The cross/circle/dot reticle allows me to shoot long range without blocking out the target and for close up the circle part is great for quick acquisition. I have to admit im very happy with this sight. Hopefully it will hold its zero and continue to function so i wont have to try their warranty out. While i was choosing a sight i emailed Athlons customer service and they responded to me quickly with the answers to the questions i asked about their sights. I ordered Butler Creek flipup lens covers for it. So far only one has arrived and its the cover without the push-button option. I chose it for the front (size 23 which fit perfectly) and im still waiting on the rear cover. It will be the one that has the red push button on it. (size 20) If i have any problems with this sight ill update this thread. So far i would definitely recommend this sight to others.
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Rancid Coolaid
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All good to know.
And yea, for a 9mm SBR, it will indeed be close range work.
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koshkin
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I am thoroughly impressed with both the SIS and RMS from Shield.
The SIS is sorta different from Aimpoint Micro and MRO. MRO is trying to have the most unobstructed view. With the SIS, the window is smaller, so there is a frame around it. However, I talked to a British guy with ties to the SA and he says at very close (almost reach out and touch) distances, the viewing window itself can become an aiming aperture: if you see the guy through the window, pull the trigger. They even turn the reticle off and run it that way sometimes. For now, I put the SIS on my 10mm handgun to see how it holds up to being bounced arounn on a moving slide. So far, nothing has shifted or loosened. If it continues like this, for carbine use, my red dot recommendations will probably boil down to Hi-Lux MM2 in the $200 range and Shield SIS in the $500 range. ILya
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Rancid Coolaid
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I am thinking a SIS shield is in my future.
I have a 9mm SBR that the T1 isn't ideal for.
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Mikhail
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Well after alot of thought and hee hawing around i ordered the Athlon Midas BTR RD13. It doesnt have the red/green choice nor multiple reticles but it did have a style of circle dot reticle which i like alot. The price wasnt to bad either.
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Mikhail
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cheaptrick if i had an Aimpoint id keep it to, LOL.
Ive been thinking about going the other way also. Nikon has an AR kit with a 3x9x40 Matte BDC 600 scope, P series AR mount and (oddly enough) a spot-on wind meter for $249.95. Even if i decide to later get a red dot i like the scope for my Weatherby Vanguard 223. Then again i have several scopes laying around unused now though they are pretty old. Guess im just like everyone else and like new toys.
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supertool73
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I agree about the parallax. I have owned aimpoint, trijicon, vortex, holosun. I can see parallax error in them all. Some more than others.
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cheaptrick
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I'll probably concede the 2 MOA dot is "better" for more precise bullet placement, I'm keeping my 4 MOA Aimpoint T1 for a spell longer. I always thought it was more of a 3 MOA dot any way. Seemed smaller too me than the former Comp M2's I ran.
Turning the intensity down a lick helps reduce target obstruction, IMHO.
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Mikhail
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Over the last week or two ive read up alot on red dots and quite alot of that concerned parallax. I may be wrong but heres the way ive came to understand it. None of them are actually parallax free. They just have such a low rating they are considered parallax free and are ranked accordingly. This article in WIKI explains it as good as anything else ive read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reflex_sight
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billyburl2
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My StrikefireII is only parallax free after 50 yards. The newer Sparc is totally parallax free,not sure about the other sights being discussed in this thread. |
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Mikhail
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I read probably the same article which you did on the Holosuns. I kept looking and finally found another which said the auto brightness can be set to manual if desired. I dont know which one ill buy to be honest. Looked in to a ton of different sights lately. Heck SunOptics has a pretty decent setup to but then so do so many others. Thanks for the input though
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I have no first hand experience with the solar holosuns. But i have read when shooting from a shaded or darker area into bright areas it is an issue. They are to dim. They adjust brightness automatically based on the light the optic is sensing.
I also read that can be turned off and set to manual. Might be something you want to look into more though. |
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Mikhail
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Shopping for a red dot sight is worse than hunting your wife a Valentine gift. You see hundreds of em with some of the features you want but none with all the features. Well thats not quite true since ive ran across several with every feature i want except build quality. It appears alot of the cheap sights are packed with features but i dont trust their ability to hold up over time.
Heres what i want in a red dot sight. Tube design red/green color choice dot circle and dot reticle 1-2 MOA dot size Night vision compatible co-witness capable lifetime warranty a price below $300 I dont think thats too much to ask. I did find a very good deal on Holsuns PARALOW HS503CU for $189.99. Its usually advertised at around $280. Heres that link if anyones interested. https://www.classicfirearms.com/holosun-paralow-circle-red-dot-black-housing-holo-hs503cu
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koshkin
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At what distance?
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I Have a couple that do NOT. They may now but they did not do that 10 years ago. You can lay one on something solid move around behind it and watch the dot shift from one location to another as your head moves. Centered they are consistent not centered they are off.
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koshkin
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They are not the same company. Many companies use the same OEM. ILya |
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RifleDude
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All reflex red dot sights work that same way. |
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Aimpoint does not need to have the red dot centered in the field of view. If the dot is on the target it is correct. Its a patented system that works very well.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I like the Aimpoint 2 MOA sights The 9000L will mount in 30mm mounts
ss ar15 mount'
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Mikhail
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Koshkin i did not know Holsun and Sig were the same company. I did notice the similarities in the two but thats all i did.
I checked out the Hi-Lux and the Shield SIS also and they look great. Still i think im going to get the Sig Romeo5 since it has every option that i want in a red dot except multiple reticles. I do like to have a choice in reticles and really like the ones with the outer circle and an inner dot but its not a deal breaker for me. I may change my mind if i find one with all the options of the Romeo 5, multiple reticles and a decent price. Either way im going to order mine next week.
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