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A big boar squirrel is undoubtedly a tough test for the ancient .30-30.
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Another major failure on my part… I have no 30-30...
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Originally posted by urbaneruralite urbaneruralite wrote:

I killed a lot of deer with a 30/30. The only ones that did not dash were hit in the CNS. I tried most of the available bullets to make the cartridge more capable. I killed a lot of deer with a .300 Win Mag. Same deal, almost. That's kinda how things work, all-around. If you want to dump them on the spot, you have to interrupt the signals to the muscles holding the animal up. 


Perzackly!!!!

And or break the shoulders, making it impossible for it to continue standing up.
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The vast majority of the longest blood trails I’ve followed had feral hogs at the end of ‘em. I’ve killed untold hundreds of hogs and I’ve seen them travel amazing distances with hits in the vitals with .300/.338 class magnums. They are amazingly tough, strong willed critters! The only way I’ve found to 100% reliably anchor them on the spot is a brain shot, and then caliber choice isn’t very critical.
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" Eduardo was in a bar in Colorado one time and discovered that a couple of pitchers of Kamikazes is like a 'brain shot'! " 


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Somehow, Eduardo, I can imagine that a couple of pitchers of Kamikaze would improve your thought processes...
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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

I swear to God I have only had ONE animal run after being shot!  A heart shot doe ran fifty yards before collapsing.....otherwise every animal in MY LIFE dropped in his tracks!!  

.....It's kind of a......TRADITION now.......


....call it an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder......




I  had a gun and ammo that did that, until I ran out of the ammo. The next box I bought, I didn't get the same results. 

Gun was a Ruger M77 MK11 stainless laminate in 7mm-08. Ammo was Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip in 140gr.  No deer ran off when shot with the first box, second box, not a single DRT. 

Nosler changed something in the bullet make up. 

What I have been told is to shoot them high in the shoulder for 1 shot DRT kills. 
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Another major failure on my part… I have no 30-30...


Don't log back on until you fix that..... a Henry maybe?

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Another major failure on my part… I have no 30-30...


Don't log back on until you fix that..... a Henry maybe?


Probably my first choice… or a good Winchester 94
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I have sighted in a friends Mark V in .257 Wby and I loved that gun. If the gun in question is a Mark V and the price is right I would buy it.
Neither caliber is popular and since this is for hunting, I would not worry price or availability. Both will be expensive and not in the average store. 
If the caliber and gun is still in question I would get the .264 for the reasons already stated. The .264 has far better sectional densities available than the .257. This will help a lot with "bucking the wind" and terminal performance given bullets of equal construction. I use 140 grain in a .260 and it is a sledge hammer on deer sized game.
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Git a 270....

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i have a hunting buddy that has hunted with a 264 for a long time. if you saw all the trouble he has had finding bullets over the years ,you would not even consider it without reloading. the last ones he bought were $60 a box for regular shells. if you got to have a magnum get a 7mm rem like i have. but i still rather hunt  with a 270. i just hunt whitetail deer and coyotes,longest shots i take are less than 500 yards. i use the walmart rule for calibers. they have to be available at walmart.
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WalMart is too much trouble to go to for ammo. I mean, I can just sit here and have it sent to my door. I don't even buy clothes in person anymore. The grocery store, hardware and feed n seed pretty much account for my in person shopping.
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I remember the Good Olde Days when ANYBODY could buy bullets at a gas station if you had the spare change....


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Might consider the WSM's too.  The .270 WSM is flat shooting with moderate recoil.  They are available in some fairly light weight rifles, ideal for covering distance on foot.
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I have a .270 Winchester which is my dedicated deer rifle.
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Tahqua,
I was at the local gun store looking at a 25-06 when I saw a used Weatherby Mark V in .257 with exhibition grade stock. I was using the hunt as an excuse to purchase another rifle. Since I had a 25-06 rifle built for my nephew I was looking at the same caliber.
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I would like to thank everyone for your input. The Weatherby Mark V Deluxe with exhibition grade stock was made in 2009. I contacted Weatherby about building another one. They gave me a delivery time of 12 months and a cost of $3000 to $3200. I could buy a Winchester Model 70 Supergrade or Remington 700 and have it bedded in an upgraded stock.  
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