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nralifer
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Can't wait to see the rifle put together. The 338-06 is incredibly versatile.You can hunt anything in North America and could also go for Cape Buffalo if you found guide that would let you use it.
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Kickboxer
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Yep, lowly 30-06 has killed everything on the African continent… 338-06 will be better…
I'm going to have a stock constructed for it… the Mausingfield is not a complete drop-in for many Remington 700 based stocks/chassis… will work with some, but many require modifications. I'm having one built for the action. I think it will look nice. I've located 3 companies (and 2 backups) and will start contacting them next week to make a final decision.
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You may have to remove a little material directly in front of the recoil lug in some stocks to allow room for the Savage style barrel nut, but apart from that, the action itself is a complete drop-in to any stock designed for Rem 700. |
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RifleDude
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That being said, if you are planning to have a wood stock with exhibition grade walnut, you’re not talking about a drop in stock anyway. Unless you find the rare takeoff custom stock someone had made for a 700, exhibition grade wood = custom stock.
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It was not the original plan, as I think is clear. I was thinking of a drop in stock/chassis until I decided to have a custom stock built.
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"The Mausingfield receiver is compatible with triggers, trigger guards, and magazines designed for use with the Remington Model 700 (hereafter M700). Below the stock line, the Mausingfield receiver is similar in shape to the M700, making it compatible with many of the chassis systems and stocks designed for the M700. However, the ejection port of the Mausingfield is slightly different than that of the M700. The Mausingfield also has a bolt stop that is centered on the bore axis and protrudes from the side of the receiver. Thus, when fitting a Mausingfield barreled action to a stock designed for the M700, slight alterations may have to be made to the stock near the ejection port and the bolt stop. The Mausingfield action is not compatible with barrels designed for use in the M700."So perhaps not a complete drop in...
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That’s just the standard disclaimer that’s good advice for all Rem 700 footprint custom actions. Forgot to mention the bolt release button stock cut. That’s standard fare with any action having a bolt release button on the side of the receiver since the Rem 700 has its bolt release button forward of the trigger. Not a big deal, though. Maybe 5 min of work with a Dremel tool and carbide cutter, followed by light sanding with a sanding block. As for the ejection port, that all depends on where the stock line is relative to the centerline of the action when seated in the inletting. If the inlet is deep /stock line high, you will have an ejection port relief in the stock. Depending on the stock, you may want to contour the relief so it looks nice and pretty and follows the lines of the action’s ejection port. That is an aesthetic thing, not hampering function. As for stock inlet matching barrel contour, it goes without saying that unless you choose a contour that matches the barrel inlet in the stock, you will always need to modify the stock for the barrel. That applies to any barreled action. For all intents and purposes, it’s a “drop in” action, but if you apply a “zero modification whatsoever” standard to the term “drop in,” then there really is no such animal, because you can never guarantee every combination of custom action and barrel combination will fit perfectly to every stock designed for the action. The term “drop in” as it pertains to stocks designed for a given action means that the inletting for that action family has already been done, that you don’t have to modify the basic inletting in the stock to accept the action and screw hole positions. This doesn’t mean you’d never need to make minor modifications for stuff like bolt stop buttons, extra wide ejection ports, fatter than normal bolt handles, different bottom metal/trigger guard designs, or if you chose a wider than standard aftermarket trigger asst. This is all kinda taken for granted when buying aftermarket parts for a custom barreled action, and many times, the person buying an aftermarket stock plans to apply a finish of some sort, so minor fitting modifications will be covered by the new finish anyway. Anyone with a basic level of “handiness” who isn’t a complete klutz with hand tools can make all necessary modifications to a stock to fit the variations of custom parts chosen in less than 20 min time. Speaking for myself, I would rather have to make minor fitting modifications to a stock because then the finished stock to metal fit will be closer and look better.
If a stock or action manufacturer really means no fitting whatsoever is required, they will typically use the term “100% drop in.” |
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Hey Dan, please don’t take my posts as me being argumentative, as that’s not my intent. Keep in mind that I typically build 4-5 custom rifles a year, and for me, making modifications and adding custom “touches” to so-called “compatible” parts is part of the fun and reason for building the custom rifle to begin with. I’m personally not interested in stuff you just screw together and call it done. I don’t even leave factory rifles box stock most of the time. My point is, the Mausingfield is no different from any other Rem 700 footprint custom action with regards to parts that work with it except for the use of Savage style barrel nut barrel installation and the fact they use their own proprietary scope mount rail.
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Ted, I'm having a custom stock built… not doing it "all myself" because I do not have the tools or access to the tools for that level of work. It will be fit directly to the Mausingfield action described below: "The Mausingfield is not a Remington clone. It’s a bolt action in a class by itself, derived from a comprehensive understanding of what a bolt action must do, and decades of both engineering and manufacturing experience. The parts comprising the Mausingfield action are not compatible with any corresponding parts used for any other action. These actions include those manufactured by Remington, Savage, and Winchester, or by any company that manufactured Mauser M98 actions, past or present." I've not had my hands on one, George and Drew are the only ones I know who have. I spend lot of my career investigating new and interesting "stuff", professionally and privately. I like what I see with the Mausingfield and like what I've heard about it. I've put a number of possible projects on hold or delete in order to get the Mausingfield, the way I want it. So far, I don't see any downsides. Have a Happy Christmas.
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I realize all that and never meant to imply there’s a downside. Just want to make it clear to anyone reading this thread who is contemplating buying the Mausingfield action that, just like any other custom action designed with Rem 700 footprint, the main components you typically buy to complete the build that you would have compatibility concerns about— stocks, triggers, mag boxes, follower, follower spring, bottom metal, action screws — if you pick Rem 700 style parts for those components, they will work with no problems. That’s all. Functionally, feature-wise, “above the stock line” parts-wise, no, it’s not a Rem 700 clone. But if they didn’t intend for you to use Rem 700 stocks, triggers, magazine parts, and bottom metal, they wouldn’t have made the action to have the exact same dimensions as a Rem 700 on the underside, where you’re concerned with mating it to aftermarket parts. The “ing” part of the name “MausINGfield” comes from “RemINGton” ...feature-wise, it’s a MAUSer-RemINGton-SpringFIELD synthesis.
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So it's a Mausingremfield… Love it. NOW that we've established THAT… Happy Christmas… |
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I don't know who might know this, But Ted Karagias, who owns ARC is a mechanical engineer from Duke University by training, and he has to have a great deal of technical knowledge of metallurgy and machining. His products show it. I think he has worked for Boing on the 777 in his early career. His short action magazines will fit AI style bottom metal, are center feed and allow bullets of over 2.955" OAL simply because they are made from thinner steel and are rugged as hell. They are absolutely perfect for 308 Win derived cartridges and allow the use of long ogive bullets.
Here are a couple of examples 6mm Comp Match 105g ICBM (prototype for now). 46.5gr Superformance (SPR) 3246 fps, COL 2.950" feeds flawlessly. 6mm CM, 96gr ICBM,47.5 gr SPR COL 2.950" 3350 fps, feeds flawlessly 308 Win from 24" Bartlein 150gr Bulldozer, COL 2.90", WLRM primer, 50gr Leverevolution 3119 fps. Fits the ARC mag perfectly. One could not fit these rounds in a Kimber or Remington 700 SA action production rifle or AI short action mags simply because the magazine internal capacity is TOO SHORT because of inefficient space utilization due to poor design. Yet these rounds perform like WSMs from 308Win-derived brass! The Mousingfield short action and magazine is like putting a heavy duty transmission in your project car. It will allow you to accommodate more horsepower
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Having done a bit of research into the Mausingfield before commissioning
a build, it seems to me that the philosophy was to have the good features we like
about Mauser / CRF / Positive extraction features people like with a footprint
that fits more accessories such as triggers and stocks |
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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nralifer
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Also the versatility of a barrel nut as well.
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