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RifleDude
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Though maybe not the best value for their hefty price tags, the good news about all of the upper tier, so-called “alpha” binos mentioned is you can’t make a bad choice, even if you choose one that isn’t the “ultimate” match to your eyes. The differences between them optically will be minuscule to most people, and those differences will boil down to personal preferences, not necessarily borne out of technical superiority of one over the other. I really believe when you get into this class of optic, things like form factor/ergos, eyecup comfort, focuser speed and feel, etc is as or more important than optical performance. At this level, they are all optically stunning.
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Ted
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JGRaider
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Right on Rifle.
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Whitefire
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I couldn't have said it better, as JG stated, "right on...". Wf Edited by Whitefire - February/17/2018 at 08:40 |
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As far as Leicas go, I see that the sample list has both Ultravid HD's and the HD+ in the bigger objective models - is there much gained by the HD plus, or is the difference negligible? Reading different articles online indicates that the step was minor. I checked out some of the HD+ models in a store yesterday (yes, in addition to my new EL's, I might buy one more premium bino for my kid who is becoming very serious about hunting) and was impressed by the image, so before I jump on another swaro ......
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NDhunter
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I have had the EL models both 8x32 and 8.5x42, the former and the Swarovision. I also have a Leica 8x42 UV HD. The EL's are better in my eyes, in several ways including brightness, handling, open bridge and the SV has the flat field view to the edges. |
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Those EL's finally arrived. Excellent glass. I made the right choice.
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NDhunter
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What size did you get ? The Swarovision is hard to beat, good to hear you are pleased. Jerry |
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10x42's. I would have preferred the 50's, but the deal was too good to pass up. These are new production, and I do not see any rolling ball effect, which I was a little concerned about.
I had all my different binos out today, and these EL SV's were far and away better than everything else. I'd still consider the Leica 50mm's for my kid, if anybody can tell me the difference between the HD and the HD+ in an 8x50 (if the upgrade is worth 300 bucks, or not)
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RifleDude
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You made a great choice, of course. EL SV is a superb bino. As far as sharpness out to the edge of the field is concerned, it's as good or better than anything else on the planet.
Most optics companies intentionally design their binos to have some degree of pincushion distortion so that you don't get the aforementioned "rolling ball" effect when panning. Pincushion distortion makes the "flow" of objects in and out of the field of view appear more "normal" to the human brain when panning. This inevitably involves the image being softer along the field edges. With a "flat field" design like the SV, you do get a very expansive, impressive sharp view out to or close to the field edge when looking at stationary objects, but the "globe" or "rolling ball" effect when panning through binos with field flattening optical design makes some people dizzy/causes eye fatigue or headache when doing lots of panning. To some people, this isn't an issue. A lot depends on how you use your binos as well. If you typically do a lot of panning, searching for game animals, you might have an issue, but maybe not. Some people don't notice the globe effect at all, and even among those who do notice it, the issue is sometimes overstated. If you're among those who don't notice it, you tend to do less panning, or if you do notice it but it doesn't bother you, you won't find a better view than the SV offers. All optics involve a series of design tradeoffs. Congratulations on owning a premier binocular!
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Ted
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Kickboxer
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I want THAT binocular... |
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RifleDude
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The “view the future” bino would certainly be badass, but I’d be really concerned having a flux capacitor that close to your face might cause a brain tumor.
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Ted
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Sparky
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I'd be more concerned about having 1.21 gigawatts that close to me.
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reminds me of my old drill sergeant who told a kid "those glasses are so thick you can see the future"
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RifleDude
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Haha! Yeah, that’d no doubt “leave a mark!” |
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Ted
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Bitterroot Bulls
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Don't worry Ted, the garbage-fueled Mr. Fusion is a totally safe, non-carcinogenic power source. |
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-Matt
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Kickboxer
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The flux capacitor produces no external harmful radiation... However, the 1.21 gigawatts, supplied to the appropriate high energy beam weapon, will DEFINITELY leave a mark... |
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Sting a bit too
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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