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South Pender
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Posted: March/10/2018 at 12:48 |
The latest offering from March Optics is the 6-60x56mm. FFP scope designed for ELR shooters.
Here's a picture, followed by specifications: http://www.marchscopes.co.uk/genesis-6x-60x56.html (To acquire the picture and information, highlight the link, right click on your mouse, and choose "Open Link".) Made the link hot Edited by tahqua - March/10/2018 at 13:50 |
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Very very interesting!!!
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What. Is this for real?
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Scrumbag
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Yep, being touted as the next big thing. Though I've never really got on with March scopes I must admit
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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It is for real, but not quite here yet. It should be an interesting solution for ELR.
ILya
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For all that it provides, the price seems to be reasonable, as well. Looks like a game changer.
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my that is a lot of magnification should be intense being behind a 60x
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koshkin
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In what way? |
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I'm basing my assumptions on the fact that I expect this scope to be of the same excellent quality of every March scope I've had my hands on... now 10 of them. First, it requires no rings... attachment built in... only needs a rail (that does not have to have any slope). It has 400MOA of elevation adjustment, approximately 300 "UP". The adjustments on every March I've touched have been excellent... I expect the same on this entry. Being March, it will have excellent glass. I like the reticle. It has enough magnification to actually "keep up" with EXTREME Long Range shooting (yeah, I know, the objective isn't really big enough for that magnification, but, for me, I think it will be adequate). To me, it is in a reasonable price range for what is being provided. Most of all, I expect it to force most of the "big optics providers" to step up THEIR game a bit to try to keep up. (once "the box" is opened... it can't/won't be closed) Therefore, it changes the "game". I've already heard some mutterings that "they are trying to do too much in one package". I don't think so... I have a lot of faith in technology and mechanics. It weighs 3.3lbs... there are others that do with MUCH less capability. OK, it is a "niche" market.. but that "niche" grows larger every day... It may be more magnification than I ever need. But it doesn't matter to me if I "NEED" it... just that I want it... and someday, I may need it... I know there are a number of assumptions there, but I expect the best of people/companies... sometimes disappointed, sometimes not. So far, in most categories, the "nots" are winning... If I stay with "traditional optics", this one is very high on my list. |
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tahqua
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For me, traditional optics does not even come close to this scope.....and mil-MOA?
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⬆️ Im with Doug.
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I'm talking "traditional optics" versus digital...
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I see Dan, but as a hunter this beast leaves much to be desired aesthetically.
Maybe this thread should be in tactical scopes. |
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There are circumstances where I could see using it for hunting, but it is certainly not intended as a primary hunting scope... not in those power ranges... but not eliminated, either. There are also tactical applications, many, but I don't see this as primarily tactical, either. Probably more a competition scope, at least from my perspective. But, to say for sure, would have to use one a bit to truly get a good feel. Digital scopes are certainly not intended for entirely tactical applications.
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I do not think there is going to be much of a response to this scope from other scope makers, although anything is possible. Externally adjustable scope is an old idea, but March does have a new take on it which I find interesting. For ELR, the scope will need to be lifted higher, otherwise the barrel will get in the way. The scope is still in development, so a lot of things are still unknown. I think the configuration as presented is a missed opportunity for March to really differentiate themselves, but we'll see how it all looks when the development is finished. ILya
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Depends on market response. However, I believe it will cause some adjustment range increases. Yes, we will have to wait and see how it turns out. But March is pretty good...
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I sent an message to March asking whether the elevation dials limited the use of the internal elevation travel. Their reply is pretty interesting:
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I know and like Dave Albers and he is a good advocate for March.
Genesis is a new take on an old idea of using external adjustments in riflescopes. It is not a bad way to go, of done right and March may very well do it right. The proof is always in the actual use, so we will know more when the product gets there. There are several things in the way they configured the Genesis scope that are weird to me and some things that Dave says are odd to me. That having been said, I am very curious to see how this scope does. There is more than one way to do ELR, and I am not convinced that the Genesis design is the best way to go about, but it is definitely a viable way. We will see how it all shakes out. ILya
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I'm curious how the Genesis compares to setups using adjustable bases like the Cold Shot and Ivey or with a Charlie TARAC.
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Conceptually, I like the TARAC, primarily because it works with multiple scopes and because it raises the line of sight a bit.
Still, it is nice to have options. ILya
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