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Posted: November/07/2018 at 06:41 |
One of our TV channels are showing a documentary called 100 Years of War. One of the wars being shown is the Vietnam War.
A shocking revelation was made: Towards the end of the war and after the Tet Offensive North Vietnam was willing to enter into peace talks with South Vietnam. The table was set for a meeting between the two, overseen by the USA and other countries. Nixon then sabotaged this meeting for his own political gain. Apparently he secretly contacted South Vietnam and told them not to attend the meeting because when he becomes president he would get a much better peace agreement in favour of South Vietnam. South Vietnam never attended the meeting. Meanwhile Pres Johnson became aware of what Nixon did. In a taped conversation between the two Johnson alluded to the facts but never confronted Nixon outright. Johnson also stated that if true, such an act of negotiating with a nation at war constitutes treason. Nixon denied all involvement. Johnson allowed him to lie and many American soldiers in Vietnam paid the ultimate price for Nixon's political ambitions and Johnsons lack of will.
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mike650
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Johnson was no saint either.
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“A hunt based only on trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.” – Fred Bear
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Did they name their sources Wouter so people could gauge reliability?
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God save the Empire!
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BeltFed
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First I ever heard of this, and I followed the war and politics closely. I call B.S.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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Likely BS
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They played the actual tape recording of this conversation. The peace talks were held in Paris in the absence of South Vietnam. So check out if that happened.
This is no bullsh*te.
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The CIA had bugged the South Vietnam Embassy, that is how they got the info. I recorded this program, hopefully I have not yet deleted this chapter and will check for sources.
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Check this link:
Nixon had cause to lie. His actions appear to violate federal law, which prohibits private citizens from trying to “defeat the measures of the United States.” His lawyers fought throughout Nixon’s life to keep the records of the 1968 campaign private. The broad outline of “the Chennault affair” would dribble out over the years. But the lack of evidence of Nixon’s direct involvement gave pause to historians and afforded his loyalists a defense. Time has yielded Nixon’s secrets. Haldeman’s notes were opened quietly at the presidential library in 2007, where I came upon them in my research for a biography of the former president. They contain other gems, like Haldeman’s notations of a promise, made by Nixon to Southern Republicans, that he would retreat on civil rights and “lay off pro-Negro crap” if elected president. There are notes from Nixon’s 1962 California gubernatorial campaign, in which he and his aides discuss the need to wiretap political foes. Of course, there’s no guarantee that, absent Nixon, talks would have proceeded, let alone ended the war. But Johnson and his advisers, at least, believed in their mission and its prospects for success. When Johnson got word of Nixon’s meddling, he ordered the F.B.I. to track Chennault’s movements. She “contacted Vietnam Ambassador Bui Diem,” one report from the surveillance noted, “and advised him that she had received a message from her boss … to give personally to the ambassador. She said the message was … ‘Hold on. We are gonna win. … Please tell your boss to hold on.’ ” |
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that nyt article is an opinion piece
it is also the opinion of some that the reason the democrat national headquarters were broken into was to find proof that the democrats were accepting cash bribes from north vietnam which imo is probably true because the secret service turned down bribes offered by the republicans in favor of bribes offered by the democrats now compare what nixon attempted to do to democrats back then to what democrats actually did to trump
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