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HOLLOWPOINT
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The ATN scopes costs serious bucks but the BARSKA glass is comperatively cheap. Neverthelsss the BARSKA are rated higher than the ATN scopes.
Why?
If those ATN are really THAT bad, no one with his intellectual faculties intact would buy them. At least not with that price tag.
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pyro6999
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huhuh i cant wait for chris to tell you what he thinks about them!!
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They call me "Boots"
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supertool73
Optics God Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
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I have owned a couple ATNs, I sold the one within a week after I got it and the other I still have but it is another paper weight. Looking through them is like having one of those yellow filters over the lenses all the time. Okay not that bad but pretty close. And on top of that they are so damn ugly.
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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
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HOLLOWPOINT
Optics Apprentice Joined: November/24/2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 79 |
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Gross!
And how about the resolution and contrast of that scopes? Just as bad as the chromatic aberration?
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Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine
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cyborg
Optics God Gaseous Clay Joined: August/24/2007 Location: North Georgia Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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I'm gonna stay out of this ATN thing.................
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Chris Farris
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To answer your question......the Barska are rated higher because they are better. People with their intellectual faculties do buy the ATN scopes from time to time because they don't know. You can't go by price in this case. We have had some returned in pieces. The rings they provide are made out of very brittle pot metal and break often while attempting to install them. There are two brands that we refuse to take on trade and ATN is one of them.
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cyborg
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I'm betting that the other you don't carry............ Did I just think that aloud?
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pyro6999
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is doctor the other???
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They call me "Boots"
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Chris Farris II
TEAM SWFA - Admin MODERATOR Joined: August/13/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
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One day your life will flash before your eyes; Make sure it's worth watching.
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HOLLOWPOINT
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Why do you sell this junk? Is the demand really THAT high?
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Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine
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supertool73
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The 3-9 I had reminded me a lot of the BSA glass. It was cloudy, contrast was bad, colors did not look right at all, and it just was not very clear. The worse part was it had a 55mm bell on it, you should have seen the cheek piece I had to jimmy rig up just to be able to use it. I felt like I had a spotting scope on my gun
The 5x which I still have even though it has a bad yellow tint to it is actually considerably clearer than the 3-9x was. When i got it I did not think it was to bad, I was kindof a cheapo scope guy at the time and then I bought an IOR 4x and realized how bad it was. Also the BDC knob on top could just be turned around and around. So if you screwed up with it and turned it to far, you would be shooting with it on 100 yards and be hitting like 30 inches high. They really talk them up on the ATN website, it kind of pisses me off that they talk up a product so much and in reality they are just horrible. But I bought the 5x for $100 and it came with a decent tactical flashlight, a AR carry handle mount that allows you to mount a red dot type optic up in front of the carry handle. So I didn't figure I did to bad. I sold the 3-9x for what I paid for it so I was not out to much. Edited by supertool73 - February/19/2008 at 16:49 |
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pyro6999
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well i took my guess and was wrong!
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They call me "Boots"
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supertool73
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Oh if anyone wants to try out an ATN I would gladly sell it.
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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
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Chris Farris
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We stocked them at one time and had decided to let them go but they do offer many other products other than rifle scopes that are very good products. They made a proposition to us for us to keep their products on our web page and catalog. The deal was that they will drop ship and handle all customer service issues rapidly and work to improve the problems with their QC. If things don't get better we will remove the rifle scopes from our site and catalog. They are very good people that are willing to listen and learn. I am hoping that they will regain our respect and that we will have them on our shelves again some day.
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cyborg
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If I was to guess I'd say that the NC-S*** would be the one other.
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pyro6999
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leapers
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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Chris Farris
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Sorry I was not trying to be secrative, the other is Shepherd. |
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pyro6999
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dang it well i owe cyborg $5!
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They call me "Boots"
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supertool73
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Whats the deal with Shepards? I have often wondered about those scopes, the reticle seems like a cool idea.
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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
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Chris Farris
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Mainly the deal is that they don't sell.
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