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First off I have never heard of the stated adjustment range of a scope combining both windage and elevation since they operate 90 degrees from each-other. That just makes absolutely no sense, why would you even want to combine the 2. It has 35MOA in either direction from center but that = 70MOA total in EACH plane. Not ragging on you, I know you are just repeating what you were told but something is missing somewhere. Whacko
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Ok just for grins I grabbed one of my 3-9X42 SII B/S. I know it's not the same scope but it's the same adjustment system from the same manufacturer and has the same advertised 70 MOA adjustment range as the one you are looking at. Based on just twisting the knobs I had 71MOA Elevation and 72MOA windage. 

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Originally posted by biggreen747 biggreen747 wrote:

First off I have never heard of the stated adjustment range of a scope combining both windage and elevation since they operate 90 degrees from each-other. That just makes absolutely no sense, why would you even want to combine the 2. It has 35MOA in either direction from center but that = 70MOA total in EACH plane. Not ragging on you, I know you are just repeating what you were told but something is missing somewhere. Whacko
If you view Sightrons website it shows windage elevation travel 70 MOA. I too, find it hard to believe that a 30 mm tube diameter in 8-32x 56mm would only have 35 MOA total for windage, and 35 MOA total for elevation. But what really messes with my mind is, this is the second tech support guy that I spoke with at Sightron who has repeatably said they are "100% positive" of this. I think that I'll take a second look at the Minox ZA5/30, (6-30x 56mm). I believe that they advertise 80 MOA total.
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is he stating up and down??? 35+35???  not up and down and left and right...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote biggreen747 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/25/2011 at 17:44
Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

is he stating up and down??? 35+35???  not up and down and left and right...

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That"s what I'm wondering. Is he quoting it from center???? My 3-9 zeroed on my rifle I have 32 Down / 39 Up, 33 Left and 39 Right...... Or as stated before just a bit better than the advertised 70MOA of adjustment in each plane.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Blackbird Blackbird wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Blackbird Blackbird wrote:

I was hoping for an excellent, high quality straight power scope, in the 20-24x range, since changing power is not needed for my application."Fixed" power is for simplicity. (less things to go wrong), and I assumed that money would be saved staying with a fixed. Also the scope will be used for long range ground-hog shooting (800-1200 yards), and load developement only. The 30mm tube diameter is for more MOA mainly in elevation.  

You reasoning is perfectly correct in theory.  However, in practice, there is so little demand for high magnification fixed power scopes that you often pay premium for them.  Besides, variable scopes from quality makers got so good that in most cases there is no downside to going with one of them.

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Well I just got off of the phone (3/25/11, 3:55 PM EST) with Steven (tech support with Sightron) and he told me, that the 70 MOA for windage/elevation is total for both. I said, " you mean 70 MOA TOTAL for windage, and 70 MOA TOTAL for elevation ? " He said "NO, absolutely not, the 70 MOA is 35 MOA for windage, and 35 MOA for elevation." I said " are you sure about this ?". He said "I am 100% positive."
 
Someone better get their facts straight. I don't know who, but I am holding off buying a Sightron SIII SS 8-32x 56mm until this is positively clarified. 

If that recollection of the conversation is accurate, Steven should be fired on grounds of incompetence.

It is 70MOA of total elevation adjustment and 70MOA of total windage adjustment.

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It is 70MOA of total elevation adjustment and 70MOA of total windage adjustment.
 
That statement  made by Koshkin is correct and just so there is no confusion I grabbed one off the shelf and confirmed it.
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Blackbird Blackbird wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Blackbird Blackbird wrote:

I was hoping for an excellent, high quality straight power scope, in the 20-24x range, since changing power is not needed for my application."Fixed" power is for simplicity. (less things to go wrong), and I assumed that money would be saved staying with a fixed. Also the scope will be used for long range ground-hog shooting (800-1200 yards), and load developement only. The 30mm tube diameter is for more MOA mainly in elevation.  

You reasoning is perfectly correct in theory.  However, in practice, there is so little demand for high magnification fixed power scopes that you often pay premium for them.  Besides, variable scopes from quality makers got so good that in most cases there is no downside to going with one of them.

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Well I just got off of the phone (3/25/11, 3:55 PM EST) with Steven (tech support with Sightron) and he told me, that the 70 MOA for windage/elevation is total for both. I said, " you mean 70 MOA TOTAL for windage, and 70 MOA TOTAL for elevation ? " He said "NO, absolutely not, the 70 MOA is 35 MOA for windage, and 35 MOA for elevation." I said " are you sure about this ?". He said "I am 100% positive."
 
Someone better get their facts straight. I don't know who, but I am holding off buying a Sightron SIII SS 8-32x 56mm until this is positively clarified. 

If that recollection of the conversation is accurate, Steven should be fired on grounds of incompetence.

It is 70MOA of total elevation adjustment and 70MOA of total windage adjustment.

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It is 70MOA of total elevation adjustment and 70MOA of total windage adjustment.
 
That statement  made by Koshkin is correct and just so there is no confusion I grabbed one off the shelf and confirmed it.
Thank You very much for the clarification !
 
 I am now contemplating between the SIII 8-32x 56, and the Minox ZA%/30 6-30x 56mm. Decisions decisions. 
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