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    Posted: February/27/2012 at 02:40
I have a 9.3x62 that I have been slowly piecing together over the last year. In its current set-up the stock is a Hogue synthetic and recoil has been a bit of an issue. The problem is not so much that recoil is painful on the shoulder but rather that the rifle is so light that it jumps around when fired and even with four inches of eye relief I am tapping my brow. 

Obviously I would love to just buy a much nicer and heavier stock but cash is short right now and I have a couple other projects that take priority over the 9.3x62. I would love to hear some ideas about how to manage the muzzle jump and recoil a bit more using the stock I already have. I have thought about adding lead shot or some other kind of weight but I am a little unsure how to go about doing it. If anyone has similar experience or suggestions I would love to hear your ideas.

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you can mix lead shot with epoxy and put in the butt end of the stock to add weight, also you can channel out an area in the forearm and make a place for the same.  All that said, if I were you, i'd check into a muzzle break.
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   Got any idea how much the complete rifle weighs?  Hogues aren't exactly a lightweight stock.  Could be the stock doesn't fit well.
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Hogue overmold?

I have heard some issues of excessive flex in rifles with a little more recoil.

I have an overmold on my 10/22 and really like it, but if you have a gun with some recoil in an overmold, I think the solution is simply  a new stock.

You can usually find a used HS stock for around $150-250 depending on configuration.

If it is an overmold, there is really no good solution.
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  If it is a weight issue a Boyd's laminate would help and they come in diff configurations depending on rifle brand of course.  CHEAP to.
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  Are you just having this problem when shooting from the bench?
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It is a hogue overmold Rancid. I wish it were only from the bench. unfortunately it seems to happen in a variety of shooting positions. I shot a doe with it this past season and ended up with a nice little knick on my brow. The entire set up weighs about 8 1/2 pounds, so the 9.3 turns into a bit of a thumper. However, the problem isn't the recoil, which is about the same as a 12 gauge with buckshot, the problem it the muzzle-jump or whatever is going on that keeps causing the scope to recoil upwards into my right orbital bone...ouch Ouch
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Longer eye relief - aimpoint scopes like 9000L  Nikon scopes for muzzleloaders 5 inches eye relief
Reduced power ammo - reloads
 
muzzle break
 
Add a bipod to the front sling swivel to add weight forward.
 
iron sights
 
rebarrel with heavier profile barrel
 
buy a .243
 
There are lots of fixes for this - what works for you?
 
 
 
 

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only time I've ever been kissed by a scope was when I was shooting downhill from the prone position.  I had the rifle resting on my left forearm with just my fingertips touching the ground... to give me some lift.  I had the rifle pulled into my shoulder as tight as hell and the only place for the rifle to go when I lit the powder was up... right into my head!  I've never done that again and make sure I keep the rifle from coming up just as much as coming backwards!
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  Michael,
  8 1/2 lbs is exactly what my 9.3x62 M98 weighs.  I've got a Viper 2-7x32 on it so e/r is GOOD.  It sounds to me like a stock fit problem.  Design or lop pull may not be right for you.  I've had no control problems with mine at all after I shortened the length of pull.  Mine was also a Monte Carlo design stock on the order of the Weatherby design.  Stock design is so important in all aspects of shooting including recoil control.  Even my .300 at a pound lighter is gives me no problem because the stock fits me.  What load are you shooting?  Mine is the 270 Speer at 2410. 
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I suppose it might be a stock fit problem. My body type is not abnormal though so I had never considered that as a cause honestly. I am 6'2" and 175lbs and have been shooting centerfires for quite a long time. I am not exactly sure what the LOP is on Hogue overmold stock, but it feels fairly similar to my other deer rifles which I have never had any recoil or scope-eye type issues with.

I am thinking it might be that the design of the comb on this particular stock simply doesn't mesh well with the way I shoot. I may look into a muzzlebreak, but this is a hunting rifle so I would really prefer not to make it dreadfully loud. 

The scope on it currently is the Monarch African which has 4 inches of eye relief.
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   I'd guess most production stocks have a lop that runs 13."5 - 13.75".  I'm 5'7" @ about 160.  My stocks need to be 12.5" or so.  With your deminsions it doesn't seem the lop on that Hogue should be the problem. Is it a classic style stock? What type firearm is it?  Be NICE if you could drop it in another stock of a diff configuration just to try.  I'd hate to see you go with a muzzle brake if not needed.   
   That Nikon should make a NICE scope for that rifle/cartridge combo to!
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