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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billyburl2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/13/2012 at 19:53
Originally posted by Gil P. Gil P. wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Gil, SWFA SS sells a side focus[parralex] for another $100 on the 10x,just a thought!


I own a side focus and I find them kind of annoying what with them being on the left side and all. I think I would like the rear focus a whole lot better! Seems more "ergonomic".
 Especially when that odd match director has you fire a support side group for score! Trust me, it happens.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jon A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/14/2012 at 14:44
Originally posted by Gil P. Gil P. wrote:

Actually I got the information from the "What is parallax anyway" topic up in the FAQs. This is written by Chris Farris
With front objective adjustments, you can turn them either way without worry... BUT with side adjustment scopes, like the MK4-M3, the M3-LR, or the other LR family of scopes....

That's an old article that has been around quite a while, written with Leupold scopes in mind (though much of the information of course is good for all scopes).  The "lash in the sidefocus problem," while quite common with those scopes, does not affect other brands of sidefocus scopes nearly as often as one might infer reading the article.

I haven't really spent enough time with the 10X SF to notice either way.  I can tell you the 5-20 does not need to operated in that manor.
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Thanks thats good to know thanks for the information.
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Right power depends on the target. If it's large or can move less power is better. I have a couple of 10x's on long range deer stand rifles and it's about right. 6 x is good enough but I like the 10's. Pure varmit gun for very small critters 16x.
Real high power scopes can loose what you want to shoot at real easy.  However on the target range targets fixed and most matches use fairly large well defined aiming points, high power or small bore Silhouette I use 6.5x20 Leopolds and they are considered low power my most competitors. Lot of guys use 24x. Matches on well painted targets that can't move with good contrast shot in daylight on groomed ranges.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote boats Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/16/2012 at 07:11
One more thing Parallax is important to focus close or when scopes have higher power.   My two 10's Weaver T has Parallax adjustment. Unertl 10 does not. I never turn the Parallax bell on the T and fixed has never been a problem on the Unertl. Those rifles are not used under 200 yards.  16 or the 20's turn the parallax adjustment often.  6.5x20 on my rimfire rifle when I shoot it gallery at 50 feet would not work without the Parallax adjustment.
 
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I'm debating between the 6x and 10x for the very same type of shooting you just described. If you had to get rid one of your scopes, which one would it be?
My heart wants the 6x, but my gut tells me to buy 10x. I currently have 3-9x40 Blackhawk (Weaver) Tactical mil/mil and I'm looking for a fixed power scope only.
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Having both 6x and 10x, If I were to purchase another, it would be another 6x. Yes, I like it that much! It really depends upon how far you're shooting, how small the targets are, and the distances you're most apt to use the scope. Sometimes extra magnification is nice, but other times it make the mirage sooo much more noticeable, and your heartbeat....The 6x is noticeably brighter than the 10x, and naturally it would be so. Mine always wears a sun shield.
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I mostly shoot bullseye targets at 100 and 200 yards range, with occasional 18-24" plates and silhouette targets at 600 yards. The current scope that I have 3-9x40 does not have parallax adjustment and gets little blurry (out of focus) at 9x. I have to strain my eyes and they get tired after few minutes, so the scope mostly stays at 5-6x. Also at night anything over 5.5x and the scope is loosing its brightness at dusk. I don't think I'll use this rifle hunting. It's Rem 700P .223 with barrel cut from 26 to 21.75", recessed crown, 15MOA Leupold base and TPS Super-low rings. Thank you for your help.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ba_50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/21/2014 at 16:25
The 12x has a noticeably less FOV over the 10x. That's why I bought another 10. I have used a 15X at 1000 yards without any mirage problem so I wouldn't worry about that. Some are using scopes in the 40x range and "shoot through the mirage" successfully but that would be rather frustrating for me, I think.  If I was going to buy scope for 600 plus yards it  would be a 24X.
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The 12x has .7 meters less field of view at 100m vs. the 10x. That is approximately 27" narrower at 100m.
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I have the 6 and the 16 but have had the 10 and 20 but never the 12x.  In the 6x I have had both mil dot and mil quad the mil quad is very fine at 6x but at 10x is very nice.  My favorite is the 16x Mil Quad If I bought another 6x I would go mil dot as it is a tad bolder.  At 16x there is no way I would want the mil dot with the mil quad available.  I think choice depends on how you will use it if you work off of a rest and are not shooting stalking then the 16x would be my choice but if you ever would have to use it stalking the 10 x  would be a good choice.  The 6x is the brightest in low light with a 7mm exit eye pupil  the 10x is pretty useful with a 4.2mm exit eye pupil in low light as power increases they will look incresing dim in low light which is quite noticable with the 20x its best used in bright daylight.  I find the 16x to be what I like because I sometimes dont take a spotting scope and its enough to see the holes.

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I'm going thru this too. My first Tac scope that is useable. I should have bought the 6 x mil dot from g the sample list back in January but was on The Slope. My worry is not being able to see the mil quad reticle with t he 6 x but othe

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Otherwise I want to learn, know and use the mil quad system.
But if I can't make out the reticle or can't see it in low light which the 6×42 allows I'm kinda screwed. The scope will be on a 6.5 Creedmoor and used for hunting fur and bou. But I also want a duplicate on my 223 which is used for the same. Also I want to get proficient to 1200 yards.. which is why I'm considering the 3-15 .
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So, my question is if I start with the 6x mil dot, how much brain work will be required to transfer to the mil quad system ??
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I'm sorry to high jack the thread, but you use .223 Remington for caribou? I'm just curious. 
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