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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote budperm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/23/2015 at 08:51
I can't believe he just said that!!!!  Wink
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Get an AR… you'll be much happier…



Just who are you and how did you get KB's password?
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Sent back to STI in mid November, they said 4 weeks.  We are now in February, they haven't responded to the last few emails, nothing about the gun, nothing about the issues.

I sent a McMillan stock back 2 weeks ago, they said 2-3 weeks. Email from them today said in the mail back to me by Friday.

I never understand why companies over-promise then under-deliver, that seems completely backwards to me.  Had STI told me 3 months, it still would have gone in for service, and I wouldn't be looking at the calendar right now thinking, "Did UPS mis-deliver or is something really messed up with that gun?"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/01/2016 at 17:22
Re-read initial email, they said "4-6 weeks."  That was 10 weeks ago.  The holidays were in there, I know, but...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote budperm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/01/2016 at 20:27
Sounds not good!  You definitely have grounds to gripe!
 
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Reserving judgement, am hopeful. Very hopeful!
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An update, finally an update!

For additional frame of reference: I've owned an SVI for many years (so many, in fact, that it is my first gun owned long enough to need new night sights, the original tritium died.)  I love that gun, it is a full size, 2011-framed 45ACP, it was my first custom gun built for me.
With the SVI success, and with STI's name recognition now (and great product development), I figured it was time to add a 9mm 1911
Enter the Lite Tactical STI.
The first few range trips are summarized above, I love the concept of this gun, and the execution - in all but shooting.

I got an email back this morning, they replaced the frame, didn't say why, just told me it was replaced.  They also replaced the barrel, didn't say why, just replaced it.  The gun I get back will be mostly a new gun, with no explanation yet as to how/why that happened. 
To say I am disappointed would be an understatement.  For what this thing costs, I would think it would be test fired prior to shipping.  Granted, I got some good groups for awhile, but it didn't take much for me to notice something wasn't right.  After that first range trip and the initial tightening of groups (impressively so), it never again went back to good.

STI has had my gun for almost 4 months, information has been slow, if this thing isn't stellar when it gets back...

To complicate matters even more, I got a 9mm barrel for my LoneWolf Glock 22, it is now a Glock17 and shoots great.  The hi cap 9mm 1911-grip-angle itch has been scratched, and I have yet to be pleased with STI, gun or company.

Not a smooth start.
Not a warm, fuzzy middle.
Will let you know how this one ends!
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I hope it's right when you get it.  I have returned quite a few defective products to reputable manufacturers with good experiences.  However, I've given up on getting explanations.  In most instances I don't think they can explain it because it is cheaper to replace parts or the product than analyse the fault which is probably beyond the ability and scope of the employees dealing with it anyway.  In some cases it may be concerns over liability.  It is not right but seems to be how it goes.  I just got a $28 check from Federal for a box of subsonic American Eage 230 grain .45 ACP ammo I returned with half of the rounds unfired because a large number of the fired cases had punctured primers (fired in three different proven 1911s). No explanation.  Disappointing but I cashed the check. 
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Thanks for the update.
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They say back this week, we'll see. Range report to follow.
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Finally back, just a bit after they told me it would be (enter sarcasm here). Got it to the range this morning, shot fantastic, no hiccups, no issues, shoots great.
So, now to wonder: what the hell was wrong with it and how the hell did issues so severe (as to require new barrel, new frame, and basically a whole rebuild) ever get past QC.

The test target that shipped was 5 rounds and not impressive, which might explain how terrible products get out the door. The new target sucks too, but it shoots well in my hands now, which it did not before.

This is my first STI, will be my last STI. And, for comparison, I have acquired 2 Glocks , both 9 mm) since buying this, a custom lone wolf that began life as a 22 and is now wearing a 9mm barrel, and a 34. Both shoot exceptionally well, neither has had a single hiccup. And both of which, even with RMR mounted and backup irons, cost less than the SVI. Both are accurate, more so than I can appreciate, so the STI has lost some shine.

I still love 1911s, for aesthetic reasons, sentimental reasons, and purely usage reasons; but Glock is winning me over quickly. 

Then again, there is the 40cal Novak HP in my safe, that might be the prettiest gun I own, and damn can it shoot!

Too many options, too little time (and money, my wife  might add.)

I will have another update shortly.  The STI had a rocky start, it'll need 500 or so more rounds through it to convince me it is no POS as it once was.


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It was back on the range yesterday, shot by 4 shooters, all loved it. Accuracy is what you would expect of a custom 1911 in a mild recoil caliber, gun function is still 100%, never a failure of any kind.

Though it was a severe pain in the ass to get it to this point, I can honestly say I am happy with the gun now.

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Glad to know you are becoming more satisfied with your purchase. Hope that it will sweeten the rancid taste of the initial product. Bucky
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