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    Posted: April/23/2019 at 14:48
Hello my old SWFA family. Long time since I posted here. Hope all is well. 

Well Zeiss has done it to me again.............Pretty frustrated with the company's approach and division of products.

DO NOT get me wrong I feel Zeiss optically is one of the best, but with the Germans its their way or no way. A few years ago they had little to no long range scopes other than the 4-16. Now everything in the line up is for long range shooting. I learned a few days ago they've discontinued the HT series of scopes although its still on their website. I'm not going to buy the Victory V8s and I don't need the high magnification of the V6 Conquest line.

I'm looking for a 2.5-10x50 IR. It's going atop a .375 H&H headed for Africa. Buffalo, Croc & Eland in Zambia. 

I've always loved Zeiss, Swaro or Kahles. Anyone here have experience with S&B? Heard the glass was great but their scopes were heavy and C S was hard to deal with. Any help will be greatly appreciated on the Polar T96.

Also this would be my first ever 34 mm tube. Pros & Cons


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A 375 for buffalo? I went several years ago, only took a 300WM, and when I got home, I immediately bought a 375 - and- of course - have not yet been back.

So, 2 quick points:

For a dangerous game rifle - like crocs and capes - my rifle would wear an optic that has a true 1X, and was mounted in QD rings.

Next, I have developed a real love for Swaro hunting scopes, their glass is great, their illumination is good, and they have yet to let me down. There is much to be said in low light and/or high stress for an image that pops out and an easy eyebox.

While I was hunting there, my PH tried to convince me to shoot an Eland, he said it was a lifetime animal. My wife thought it was too huge to put on a wall, so I passed. Looking back, I should'a listened to my PH.

Get a good PH, listen to him, and - as mine told me - take what the bush gives you!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/23/2019 at 18:19
I have a Z6i on my .378 Weatherby Magnum... it probably deserves a 2.5-15 or 1.7-10 at least... maybe 2-12.  Anyway, at 6x I have a FANTASTIC sight picture out to 800 yards, could reasonably shoot to 1000 with it.  But, in truly superior glass there is nothing wrong with higher power.  It is one of my most prized scopes. 

You are going on the "hunt of a lifetime"... take a lifetime scope on your rifle.  Swarovski MAY be equaled by some... it "can't be beat"...  Just my eyes and my opinion based upon that...

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iron sights also work in Africa......





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On Zeiss: I have been very un-impressed with their riflescope offerings and there are all sorts of rumors that they will be getting out of consumer riflescope market completely.

With high end riflescopes, I have been very impressed with Leica Magnus and Swaro Z8.

At SHOT, I also though that the new Blaser riflescopes were impressive.  The 1-7x28 was probably the best low range variable I have seen to date, at least as far as first impressions go.

I will be doing a full test on that one shortly (UPS should be delivering it in a couple of days).

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With La Rue LT 719 quick detach rings.  Red post tritium + fiber optic   The stuff that hunts you back does it at night also.
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S&B is quality kit.

I would want something with a slightly lower power than 2.5.

A friend of mine just bought a 1.7-13x42 Z8i for his 375 H&H...
Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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I bought a 1.5-6x42 Schmidt & Bender off the Sample List a few years back. It has the A 7 reticle and is an excellent all around scope.
My .375 H&H wears a 1-4 x 24 Kahles with a 4A. I think the glass is excellent and the reticle perfect for close in and as far as I would shoot. I think having a bigger FOV is important and being down around 1 or 1.5 on the bottom end is important.


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I would say go with Swaro. Best all the way around, in my opinion.
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Sorry to derail, I sent it way off topic with the Swaro suggestion. As to the original question, S&B is almost always a great scope. As said, the 2.5 low end would be my concern, as you will be dealing with animals that can charge, and 2.5 is just too much - dumb as that may sound. Voice of experience!
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I have a 1.5-8X42 S&B Stratos with D7 reticle on a Sako Bavarian Carbine in .308, it’s a fantastic package. I really like the optic, clear, good FOV with a nice low end magnification and high enough zoom to judge an animal at range.
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Originally posted by saltydog235 saltydog235 wrote:

I have a 1.5-8X42 S&B Stratos with D7 reticle on a Sako Bavarian Carbine in .308, it’s a fantastic package. I really like the optic, clear, good FOV with a nice low end magnification and high enough zoom to judge an animal at range.

That is one of my favourite scope configurations.

I did not want to shell out the bucks for the S&B, so I use Delta Titanium 1.5-9x45.  It is not quite as nice, but it is very good in low light and has really well executed illuminated reticle.  1.5x on the low end is a really nice thing to have.





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Definantly at, or close to 1x at the low end unless your shooting them on a managed ranch in S.A.where the vegetation is thin or gone.
More importantly is quality of glass (light transmission) and your on the right track with a euro scope.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by saltydog235 saltydog235 wrote:

I have a 1.5-8X42 S&B Stratos with D7 reticle on a Sako Bavarian Carbine in .308, it’s a fantastic package. I really like the optic, clear, good FOV with a nice low end magnification and high enough zoom to judge an animal at range.

That is one of my favourite scope configurations.

I did not want to shell out the bucks for the S&B, so I use Delta Titanium 1.5-9x45.  It is not quite as nice, but it is very good in low light and has really well executed illuminated reticle.  1.5x on the low end is a really nice thing to have.





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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Sorry to derail, I sent it way off topic with the Swaro suggestion. As to the original question, S&B is almost always a great scope. As said, the 2.5 low end would be my concern, as you will be dealing with animals that can charge, and 2.5 is just too much - dumb as that may sound. Voice of experience!

I have a fixed 4x on both my .458 Lott and my .458 WinMag (both in Ruger #1) and iron sights on my Remington Custom Shop bolt action .458 WinMag.  I'm not afraid to face any "dangerous game" with any of those, for any reason.  However, I may have the Remington rebored to .458 Express.  
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