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    Posted: May/07/2020 at 12:02
I have a pair of 7x40 binoculars marked (on left side) "Army-Navy Triple Tested No 59264" and (on right side) "Fully Hard Coated 7x40 Field 6 (degrees)"
They appear to me to be British made Ross binoculars. Does anyone have an idea who supplied the Army-Navy stores with this binocular?

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I have a pair of 7x40 binoculars marked (on left side) "Army-Navy Triple Tested No 59264" and (on right side) "Fully Hard Coated 7x40 Field 6 (degrees)"

They appear to me to be British made Ross binoculars. Does anyone have an idea who supplied the Army-Navy stores with this binocular?

Welcome,

If there are 2,000 brands and models of binoculars coming out of Asia, most come from only a handful of manufacturers. Ross is a fine British company. But then, in America so is:

Celestron, Meade, Vortex, Bushnell, and DOZENS of others. Yet, none of them MAKE binoculars. There hasn’t been and American binocular manufacturer IN DECADES. Even when B&L was the big dog, much of their Pre-War inventory came from Zeiss in Germany.

If you have two empty suitcase and $500, you can return from Asia as a binocular mogul. The East German “border glass” was a 7x40 but, across the board, militaries  around the world, from before the second world war, had 2 primary flavors—the 6x30 and the 7x50.

“Triple tested” was a phrase David Bushnell used for his binoculars back in the 1950s and it is still used today. “Fully Hard Coated” is a term used in sales and has NOTHING to do with optics or binoculars. “Army-Navy” is more garbage to snag the unwary because the purveyors know consumers have come to believe that military optics were made in heaven. Those of us who have spent decades repairing and collimating them know that’s not true.

I don’t pull the heads off baby chicks at Easter. Still, I thought it better to give you some of the realities of the craft. And those “crafties” never let down their guard.

Cheers,

Bill

PS the 60x60 bino shown below would have an exit pupil of 1 mm, meaning the image would be a bright as a black cat, at midnight, in a cave! They don't care; their market is the cranially challenged, anyway.



Edited by WJC - May/07/2020 at 20:39
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On this I agree, I have never seen any ROSS binoculars with triple tested as a marking, or mentions of coatings. ROSS binoculars had a particular style to them for the main part and apart from their foray into the cheaper market with the SOLAROSS brand did not change that style until the end.

So these maybe a knockoff from Asia. But then if they work for you, why not.
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re: “Army-Navy” is more garbage to snag the unwary because the purveyors know consumers have come to believe that military optics were made in heaven."

I know they aren't military binocs. Army-Navy generally refers to the British Army-Navy store, which marketed items at wholesale prices to its members (something like Costco today) and since it was English I thought they might have bought English binoculars to sell. They seem high quality and look identical to Ross. They might also be from the Canadian Army&Navy discount store. Maybe I can post an image. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_%26_Navy_Stores_(United_Kingdom)
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