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Kellyorchard44
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/21/2012 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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HA HA HA Guys I can really careless what anybody thinks or says. I am going off of complete performance. It has performed everything I want and more. It all comes down to the bottom line. If I can shoot a big game animal with a clean shot (which I can) and trust the scope which I do. Everyone has an opinion and everyone is different. The entire reason I came on was to let people know that Hammer scopes SUCK!!!. My Huskemaw scope and Huskemaw scope of my firends have put some nice deer and elk on the wall. If the glass is from Japan well thank you Japan for putting nice big animals on my wall with shots over 500 yards. With all the great memories I have with friends and family. |
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SVT_Tactical
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how bout some details on your long range critter slaying getter stick?
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Shake&Bake
Optics GrassHopper Joined: November/09/2012 Location: Talladega Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Agreed. I also don't see how you can say, I have used Nikons and Swarovski's and they are of poor quality, while your Huskemaw is "Oh so wonderful!" First off, Nikon and Swarovski are in completely seperate ball parks. Secondly, Swarovski has been at the forefront of optics manufacturing for many many years and has become world-reknowned for their clarity and low-light performance. Huskemaw, however, has only been around for 6 years and not carried by very many at all. If you like spending serious coin on your buddies favorite scopes, by all means go for it. But dont think you wont be called out on here for spewing bs. You loved your Hammer and had full confidence in it (which readers see) then one day, they suck... Now its Huskemaw and they will beat out a Swarovski anyday?....
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Kellyorchard44
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/21/2012 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Agreed. I also don't see how you can say, I have used Nikons and Swarovski's and they are of poor quality, while your Huskemaw is "Oh so wonderful!" First off, Nikon and Swarovski are in completely seperate ball parks. Secondly, Swarovski has been at the forefront of optics manufacturing for many many years and has become world-reknowned for their clarity and low-light performance. Huskemaw, however, has only been around for 6 years and not carried by very many at all. If you like spending serious coin on your buddies favorite scopes, by all means go for it. But dont think you wont be called out on here for spewing bs. You loved your Hammer and had full confidence in it (which readers see) then one day, they suck... Now its Huskemaw and they will beat out a Swarovski anyday?.... [/QUOTE] Ya last year I did like my hammer scope. It shot a nice deer and elk with in 250 yards. However, when I got out to farther ranges to shoot much bigger deer and elk it lose a lot of quality. Where I was hunting this year in Utah and Nevada for Mule deer I wasn't getting within 400 yards of an animal. Sorry for the confusion when I said Nikon and Swarovski were poor quality. Maybe its my eyes however, I could see better with the Huskemaw scope. It was clearer to me and my eyes. Guys im not here to call BS. I am only sharing my opinion. The load I created for my 300 win mag is 185 VLD berger bullet, 215 federal primer, 79 grains of h-1000, remmington brass, .2 off of my lands |
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dillon_h
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Thats where the cheap, high mag scopes fail is at high power.
Aside from everything else, what did you not like about the Swarovski? Its possible that it may not be adjusted right. Do you wear corrective lenses when you shoot or regularly? |
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Kellyorchard44
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/21/2012 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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With the scope itself I have no problems with it. Did like the green, red, yellow knobs that come with the turret.
My eyes are 20/20 no glasses contacts. It just didn't seem as clear that's all. |
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Sparky
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Still waiting for an answer. |
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Kellyorchard44
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8-10 inch grouping at 1000 yards
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338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
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Some people like NcStars to, each his own.
Some people like Barska to, each his own. Some people like to eat other people, to each his own. I know of a Dr. that was very well educated and he thought the most expensive was the best, to each his own. The world is full of educated derlicts to, each his own. |
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boothnoble
Optics GrassHopper Joined: November/18/2012 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I have a Hammer Scope. I had a cow elk tag in Utah. And Drilled a Elk at 630 yards. I could see everything clearly. Its a great scope. 1 shot and meat on the table.
Shooting 300 win mag 185 VLD bulled 79 grains h-1000 |
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Bob La Londe
Optics GrassHopper Joined: May/22/2016 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I can't speak to all those expensive scopes. I don't own any. The most expensive scopes I own are a couple Bushnell AR223 scopes I have mounted on air guns. They are ok, but tend to get some kind of grey glare in the view field when shooting in bright sunlight. They do ok otherwise. Even in that period when the sun is down, but its not dark yet. Not great, but decent. Best is they tend to hold up to the violent double recoil of a spring piston gun. Better than many scopes used on large powder burners.
I'm not a long range shooter. Longest shot I've ever taken in the field is about 225 yards with a Mauser rebarrel 30-06 Mike Scherz (Gila River Gunworks) built for me. Cheap 4X Bushnell scope. When I walked up the bullet went in right where I pictured it in my head when the gun went off. When I started getting into airguns I destroyed a lot of scopes on my springers, but the Bushnell AR223 held up ok on most. My heaviest one would knock the retical around a bit though. When I switched it back to another gun it was fine. I didn't want to risk a high dollar scope on it, so I started asking around. The Hammers AO Magnum scopes were suggested. I put one on my heavy springer a year ago and its still there today. I've run a few hundred rounds through the gun with no issues. The scope still works fine. Its as accurate on a shot to shot to shot basis as I am able to shoot the gun. Which is to say, not very. If you are an airgunner you will know what I mean about springers. If not just believe that a high power spring airgun is difficult for many of us to learn to shoot well. Its a 30 yard gun if I want to be ethical with it. Anyway, as to the Hammers scopes. I buy only the AO Magnum scopes from Hammers. I have several of them. I have one on my .22 mag rifle, and I have one on my AR15. They are fine. They will take abuse. They are focusable at any range I shoot. I have several on airguns. All my high power (for an airgun) PCPs have one mounted. Now admittedly for me I don't tend to shoot in low light often, and I don't shoot 1000 yards. Max travel for most air guns is about 800 yards and max for the rest is probably about 1000. There are exceptions, but in the ranges I shoot for hunting and pest control they are pretty awesome. I never question the scopes. I've made kills out to about 112 yards, and with a couple of my guns do not hesitate to take shots out to 70. On the range I've put 3 in a row on a golf ball size target at 135 yards. That's the mountain backstop of the small bore range where I live. They are great scopes within their limits. I don't think they are as good as the AR223 scopes in low light, but they are less than half the price, and come with a one piece dovetail mount for 11mm dovetails, instead of having to crank a 3/8 dovetail mount out to 11mm. They are a decent "bang for the buck." Their low light is not horrible. Its just not as good as some scopes with better glass. The sun was not down yet, but it was behind the mountain when I was stretching the legs of my .22 Bam-50 at the range. I could see the golf ball well enough. If I had confidence in the power at that range I could have head shot a rabbit. With only 32 FPE at the muzzle I would not have taken the shot though. Anyway. They are cheap as scopes go. Light handling is mediocre. Duarability is good. Consistency is good. Focus is good if you setup the scope properly. Since my max range for most kill shots (Cricket .25) that I am willing to take is a little over a hundred yards, what I do is set the focus on 50 yards. Adjust the scope, and then spin the scope to whatever range I am shooting after that. If I was a 1000 yard shooter I might consider something else, but if all I did was shoot steel in broad daylight I'm not sure I would need to. If I hunted bug game and thought I was good enough to take 400 yard plus shots in marginally legal hunting light levels. I would look for something with better glass. Since I am neither of those things the Hammers AO Magnum scopes are perfect for me. Will I catch heck for this post. Maybe. Ok. I just wanted people to know that a Snoopy pole might not be the best choice for a daily competitive sport fisherman, but I've seen 30 pound fish landed on one. |
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Bob La Londe
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P.S. The pest I eliminate are the size of a gopher. Windage and elevation are an issue within this working envelope. I do also hunt collared dove with a couple of my airguns regularly.
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Bob La Londe
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2dDefender
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/18/2016 Location: EXTON PA Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Just bought a Hammer 2-7 x30 Pistol scope from Amazon. First one received was DOA. The immediately sent a replacement. It works like a charm. The same design as the Leopold VX-3 @ 600.00 but made in china sold for 54.00.
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13181 |
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A couple of points:
1) there is no 2-7x30 in the VX-3 line 2) if half of the Leupold's were DOA and their customers were OK with that, everyone in their engineering department would commit suicide while the people in marketing would hurt their shoulders slapping themselves on the back ILya
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2dDefender
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/18/2016 Location: EXTON PA Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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A bit teste
One: I did not say it was the SAME as the Leupold I said it WAS THE SAME DESIGN. Two: I get that it is a China knock off Three: I ONLY paid 54.00 for it. Four: A little inconvenience certainly is not good but.. Five: The darn thing works great. Since I build guns for my folks, price/value is job one. Not everyone can afford a 600.00 for a scope and if i am the quality control, well so be it. My purchasing from an American vendor that purchased from china really has nothing to do with the national debt. That is a strait up capitalistic venture. The "buy American" is smoke screen for the USA borrowing Billions to pay for entitlements. By the way @ 63 I am still actively serving in the USAF so the please don't question my US loyalty. Peter |
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Peter Barbieri
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13181 |
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1) It is not the same design.
2) I have no problem with Chinese products. 3) It is your money and you can spend it whichever way you want 4) Your personal call 5) For now Onto the rest of it: you do not have to spend $600 to get a decent scope. They start at around $150, if all you are looking for is a no frills hunting scope. I couldn't care less where the product is manufactured. The problem with Hammers brand is not where it is made, but rather how it is made, i.e. not very well. I do not think I questioned your loyalty to the US in any way, shape or form. The only thing in question here is your product selection. I could not care less what you do for a living or how old you are, but if you serve or have served in the armed forces, thank you. If you are a civilian employee of the Air Force... that can be interpreted in a number of ways. I used to work on a lot of systems purchased by the government. As a supplier, I was overjoyed. As a taxpayer, I am still appalled. ILya
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BRANSON
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I know this forum is extremely old, BUT.. I have owned a HAMMERS 3-9x40AO magnum for about 8 years now. I love shooting all firearms but rifles are by far my favorite. So, I own a couple of pellet rifles that are replicas of the real thing. I have the HAMMERS Scope mounted on a .177, break barrel, Remington Express (replica).
The Remington Scope was garbage that it came with, so I had to buy a new scope. Most REAL Rifle scopes are not meant for break barrel air rifles due to the very aggressive dual action / direction recoil that a break barrel air gun emits. HAMMERS scopes are specifically designed to handle the unique recoil of break barrel air rifles. Not breaking is their strong selling point. For what my HAMMER SCOPE is intended for it truly exceeds my expectations, considering a Nikon & 2 Bushnells broke the first day I mounted them on air rifles. I also bought my Hammers scope Brand new from Pyramid Air. Most retailers that specialize in air rifles do have HAMMERS scopes in their line up..
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anweis
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It does not surprise me that people use this forum to advertise products under the guise of inquiring about them. Some people fall for it. |
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