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    Posted: October/06/2010 at 20:12
 I've wanted one of these scopes for quite a while and I'm pretty much set on the 3-9x40 model, but I still don't know what reticle and color combination to go with. This scope will be mounted on a .308 rifle, and most of the time it will be used for hunting Whitetail deer in swamp bottoms, but it might be used for shooting feral hog at night on occasion while using a red light. Most shots will be under 100 yards.

 What do you guys think? Amber, green or red? I know color is pretty much a personal preference, but has anyone ever had trouble acquiring a red reticle while using a red light? Also, red is better for preserving night vision with the human eye, but now I hear of a new study about green. I really don't know what to do. What do you guys think?


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Well I can speak to the red light issue when it comes to a map! More years ago than I care to admit, I was attempting to read a map with a red lensed flashlight and my map no longer had any roads on it(roads were in red). Took me some time to figure out what happened to my map! Duh!
 
Don't know at all about your question concerning the Accu-Point but my gut tells me to go with the amber just for the color difference. BTW, I have the plain amber version and it works for me, although I have never tried it with red light illumination. I'm sure someone with more experience will chime in here.
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Originally posted by csacpt csacpt wrote:

Well I can speak to the red light issue when it comes to a map! More years ago than I care to admit, I was attempting to read a map with a red lensed flashlight and my map no longer had any roads on it(roads were in red). Took me some time to figure out what happened to my map! Duh!
 
Don't know at all about your question concerning the Accu-Point but my gut tells me to go with the amber just for the color difference. BTW, I have the plain amber version and it works for me, although I have never tried it with red light illumination. I'm sure someone with more experience will chime in here.

 Thanks for your opinion, it's appreciated. If memory serves me correctly, aircraft no longer have red lighting in the cockpit for that very reason.

 I'm thinking the red reticle wouldn't be in the same wavelength as the red light I use for shining, but I don't know. Even if it were in the same wavelength, I'm thinking the light reflecting off of the illuminated target will shift tint, but again I don't know that. Thanks for sharing your experience though.


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Amber or green - pick the one you like best.  Red is fine too, but amber or green will contrast better against your red light.  I have amber reticles in both of my Accupoints.  Only one of them is used for night hog hunting (3-9X40), though.  I haven't had any issues with over-illumination at night with it.

Shots under 100 yards -- BAC triangle post, without question.  It's the fastest, easiest to pick up reticle choice with the least obstructed sight picture.
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 Thanks for the info Ted Big Grin. It's greatly appreciated.

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I agree on the comments about the post reticle, I have compared it to the german dot reticle and for under 100m it is undoubtable a better choice. I would suggest you have a look at the 1-4x24 model if you expect that most shots will be under 100m. The ability to dial down to true 1x really is useful in the thick stuff and 4x is more than enough for out to 200m+. It keeps the setup compact, lightweight and allows you to shoot with both eyes open easily. 

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FWIW,  i took the ACOG i have up here last night and it has a red chevron reticle and looked at a lamp across the room that i put a red bulb in to see if i would notice any wash.  I could still see the reticle but it was not as "defined" as i would have liked it. It is usable but i can see where amber or green would show up better in the light, but red is doable.
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I hog hunt at night with red lights and a red / green combo
I use a Mildot / green dot 3-9x40 on my main hog rifle, a 6.8 AR

I MUCH prefer the little green dot to a chevron for hunting, had another Accupoint and several ACOGS with the chevron reticle
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I put a 4X32 Acog red dot/ghost ring on my 6.8 spc and luv it. Wouldn't trade it for an accupoint.  I like that ghost ring for quick shots within 200 yards.  The accupoint's I have looked at didn't have a large enough dot or I just wasn't able to be as quick as I am with the ghost ring. They make the same acog with B&C lines for the 308 I do believe. 

I shot a caribou at 6-7 hundred yards with this scope a few weeks back.  I was sneaking in on them and they took off, stopped and started feeding again when they were way over 600 yards away.  At that distance the ghost ring covered  clear over the bou's horns, so I popped 5 quick shots off. Hit him twice and was eating fresh meat that night.  I would have had him one shot if at 100 yards though.  When I was younger, I'd get with my neighbors back in Pa and we'd drive out swamps; I sure wish I had that scope back then.

I'd also never buy a new scope lacking an illuminated reticle.  So many times, I have seen bulls after dark and couldn't see my crosshairs. That won't ever happen again.  After dark the acog glows pretty dim but bright enough to target animal.

Check out those ghost rings on the trijicon site before buying the accupoint.
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No offense SVT, but that acog works fine hunting off snowmachine, 4wheeler, or outta the boat; well not so well out of the boat.  We live along the Yukon, been hunting with AR's for years; got 5 of them.  First acog though, and after using it, I'd never trade it for an accupoint; luv that ghost ring.  Loco
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oh you didn't offend me and i like acogs too.  just mounted another and a grendel upper. 
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