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    Posted: April/16/2015 at 18:58

Could anyone provide opinions on the Huskemaw Blue Diamond 4-16 and 5-20?  Not a bashing, just some experience and clean opinions would be nice.  I really like the turret with being able to put a cap on it for protection.  thanks

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I have since seen a few. The optics did not impress me, the scopes were okay, and the turret still is only as good as the data that went into it ( and the shooter is just as good as he/she is without that scope.)

I avoid custom turrets, they may be spot-on for a very specific set of circumstances, but only then. It is far more beneficial to understand mils or MOA and use any good reticle/turret with any good ballistic program. The easy path is seldom worth what lies ahead.
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That tidbit of wisdom you should write down. Because he's giving you gold right there. Custom turrets built for a curtain bullet weight and velocity under certain conditions still do not help a shooter who doesn't understand the principles RC is alluding too.
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Good points. You don't habe to have the custom turret built. It comes with a turret that is 1/3 moa amd you can set a zero stop. I'm not drawn to the scope because of the turret they build (for the conditions and ballistics you tell them) or the easiness they make it look - what I like is the 30mm heavy build to it, the zero stop, capped windage, and dust cap for the elevation turret should you choose to use it.

Lots of people seem to recommend the nightforce. I would be all over it if they capped the windage. G7 makes one capped for $2,200. That's pretty high. I hear they came out with a new one with capped windage, but the momster has a 57mm objective. That's huge.
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Originally posted by muleymaddness muleymaddness wrote:

It comes with a turret that is 1/3 moa...


That would be an insurmountable deal-breaker for me, regardless of the rest of the scope's features.
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If a capped windage is indeed a must, then that takes many options off the table.  Have you considered a "christmas tree" reticle in an FFP hunter?  With that, you don't need a spin turrets, just use the reticle.

I am a Nightforce fan, they are near bomb-proof scopes, but they ain't for everyone - or every rifle.

Maybe we should take a step back and ask on what rifle this scope will be mounted?  At what will you be shooting?  What is your marksmanship training and background?

We are happy to help with scope selection, or can just offer input on specific scopes.  As I said previously, Huskemaw might be awesome, but their marketing prevents me caring.
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It'll be going on a 7mm Rem Mag for elk and deer.  Backpacking, but horseback this year which is new for me so I don't know how the horse scabbard will effect.  I've posted similar questions about this and I'm still working through options.

For background - I'm very proficient out to 500 yards, which is what my rifle range will allow.  Up until now, I've been using the B&C reticle on the Leupold.  I liked the Swaro BT idea because for a mid range scope, it seems perfect to just dial.  Except for the top turret being exposed and shoving it down in rifle scabbards. 

I have places where I can shoot farther than 500 yards, but if I ever did this it would be merely for fun shooting at a milk jug or something.  500 is my max distance on game. 

I've all but decided to go with the Swaro BT and just put a neoprene cover on it to keep the top turret from getting hung up on anything.

I compared the Huskemaw to the Swaro and to say it was not even a comparison would be an understatement.  The Husk looked hazy to me at max magnification and the Swaro looked completely sharp on 18 (Z5 3-18x44).

My only issue with the Christmas tree reticle is in a real life hunting experience, away from the bench rest, and factor in some cold snow and maybe just going up a mountain, you put the cross hairs on a deer at 400 yards and those lines underneath become all the sudden not so clear and distinct.

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I think the Z5 3-18x44 with the BT would be your best bet.  The great thing about their turret system with the color tabs is you will automatically know what distance you're set on.  It will be set on say 200 for the first color, which will act as a zero stop,  then sight the other couple in at say 350 and 450, should be close enough for any game you'd be shooting at.  Its also very fast to use and requires only a second to dial to what you need.  Scope is also extremely light and will be nice when you're backpacking to save weight were you can.
 
On the other hand if you want to dial in precise distances with the aide of a rangefinder to know your distances, that negates the need for a worry with capped turrets as you'd have plenty of time to range, then dial in the distance so you'd be adjusting the turret anyway so if it happened to get  turned while in the scabbard you're dialing it in would correct..... make sense?  Would open up more options.  
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:


I have since seen a few. The optics did not impress me, the scopes were okay,


Did you actually use any out in the field or just look thru them at a store? What scope brands would you say they were equal to? Thanks.
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