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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

ewwww, You know you have to redo your loads when you start shooting the cans ( well your suppose too).... guess what, the Magnetospeed wont work with cans...

Why not?  Says they do on their site.

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Dude I'm just going by my findings.

I used the V something or another I want to say 3 this weekend and they were way off. The lab radar was dead on with the known FPS.
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The V3 is the one that claims to support suppressor use... the Sporter (less expensive) does not.  Set up is critical on the Magnetospeed.


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gotcha.


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 Heck everyone buy them, suppressor or not  There the best thing on the market..

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There are a number of problems with the magnetospeed... I researched them a while back.  Even if they do work with a suppressor (didn't work for Brandon and I've seen other reports of them not working or not working reliably), mounting to the barrel will change your POI. 

Get the radar...

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The V3 is the one that claims to support suppressor use... the Sporter (less expensive) does not.  Set up is critical on the Magnetospeed.


Set up is indeed critical, sensitive setting is very important. Once I figured out the settings it was dead nuts to my buddy's crono and its just easier! I can't shoot groups with it that's true but I'm just using it for MV for my shooter app. If I was doing ballistics research or design I could justify the Radar's price tag. Plus I think I may have got enough RF radiation as a TAS tech. 2 years after leaving the service I got to see a notification of a dangerous side lobe off the TWT. Yup, you guest it, my desk in the TAS shack was dead center of the side lobe! I always wondered I am the only crome dome in the family! LOL!
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The problem I had with the Magnetospeed is the bayonet loosened after virtually every shot. It was useful when the lighting conditions were such that Oehler would not work reliably though. The radar gives one much more data, and if used with an SD card you can make judgments as to the quality of the data.  Once one figures out what sort of things create artifacts in the data, it is very useful in comparing bullet BCs and for bullet development.  It can work off of a rechargeable battery pack as well using the USB cable provided with it.
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Apologies to all I have been absent due to work and the such.

WHEN did these hit the market?

Any issues with them?

Is there anything else on the market like these for the price?

Do not mean to hi-jack.

I did not read the review on the other place.

Sum it up for me fellas.

I get about 10min a day for personal things such as this cannot even be caught reading anything but my children's' schoolwork or my work or the bills.


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We have had more experiences with the radar and would like to share them. We have been using two of them, one 300 yds downrange behind a gong, to get downrange velocities, as well as muzzle velocities. The downrange radar is triggered by the supersonic crack of the bullet and needs to pass by it by a few inches. Also we used a target cam to see the downrange radar display. The down range radar tracked the bullets another 75-110 yds.  This setup gave us excellent data, and allowed us to compare our bullets with those of other manufacturers. The beauty of this set up is that you can get a BC within the first 100 yds and a down range BC.  One thing that would be great would be the availability of a graphics program that could take the SD card data and plot the velocity data as a function of distance from the radar and generate a velocity decay curve for each shot.  The SD card data can be displayed on Exel  either in Apple or Windows systems.

To 338's question, I do not know of any similar systems on the market.  The only issues with the radar is that you have to have an uncluttered downrange to get clean data, and I wish there was more info on the beam height and width, and a better aiming system for the radar. These things could improve the capture rate and track the bullets further.  We were able to track bullets as small as 17 caliber, however.
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For what you are using it for I understand perfectly the need for the systems. I wonder if minitab 17 would work for what you want to do? As for the average jack leg reloader like myself it might be seen as overkill and I'm OCD as hell!
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Steel, you keep sounding like you are trying, desperately, to talk yourself out of the radar.  Dude, you KNOW you need it... it will take you to that "next level".  Radar is "where it's at" in exterior ballistics. 

Go for it... let the "rush" take you... be the best you can be...

Lab Radar... get one...

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Dan, when we retire lets go into piracy prevention, used car sales are to flooded with people already! 😉
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There is nothing to see here... get the radar...

You are one with the radar...


get the radar...

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I will give one negative on the magnetospeed and how I know you don't want to shoot groups with it is I was working up a H4350 load for my 6.5CM and shot groups while having the bayonet attached. Got a 5 shot group that was .3 MOA, had ES of 26 and a SD of 9. Felt like that was "The Load" and loaded up some more. Shot it at 500 yards, now without the magnetospeed and had 2 MOA vertical stringing group. Checked the load again with the chrono and yup same 2708fps with an SD of 8. The bayonet changed the barrel harmonics that much.
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Hunt with your magnetospeed attached.
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I never hunt with that rifle. Just my ARs.
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Alan, for some reason your comment cracked me up Excellent
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I'm going to do it...

Seemed like a good idea...

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so your getting a radar huh.... It will help A LOT when you start loading for all those AR's you have.

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

so your getting a radar huh.... It will help A LOT when you start loading for all those AR's you have.

hunting with the magnetospeed...

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But, I like radar...
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Jason and I tried the radar with his suppressed .338 Lapua. Just got all kinds of funky numbers in terms of BC measured.  Looks like a good loud BANG is the best way to trigger the radar to get muzzle velocities. Will need to repeat with the muzzle brake and use ear muffs and ear plugs and warn the county that the noise they hear is not artillery.Nuke
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