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RifleDude
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Yes, you would move the TURRET in the direction indicated on the arrows to shift your point of impact, BUT the RETICLE will actually move in the OPPOSITE direction to make the necessary correction.
Think of the rifle as a fixed variable and its natural point of impact is unchangeable. You are moving your scope's reticle to coincide with where your rifle is sending bullets, not the other way around. If your rifle is sending bullets too far to the left relative to where you're aiming, and you want to adjust your point of impact more to the right, you have to move the reticle over to where the group is impacting, which is to the left. The next time you aim, your reticle is now lined up where your bullets were already impacting. Thus, when you aim at the same spot on the target, your scope correction appears to move the group to the right, but in actuality, you merely adjusted your reticle to coincide with your rifle's natural point of impact so that on subsequent shots, the rifle's muzzle will then have to move further to the right to coincide with where the reticle was adjusted.
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Ted
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RifleDude
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Sorry, Rancid, I responded to his post before I read yours. You explained it in a much more concise, easier to understand way.
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Ted
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Ghillie Man
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Sorry guys, i just had an epiphany! what a dumbass i am! lol thanks!
Again i am a scope noob! and to think of how much i ranted and raved about how i got a defective scope. I think i may have a defective brain instead thanks for shedding some light. |
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300S&W
Optics God Joined: January/27/2008 Location: Burlington,WV Status: Offline Points: 10592 |
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Not defective,just a brain fart. Everybody lets one once in a while.
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trigger29
Optics Master Extraordinaire X = 180 Y = 90 (X+Pyro)+(Y-Pyro) = ? Joined: September/29/2007 Location: South Dakota Status: Offline Points: 4353 |
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At least you owned up to your mistake, instead of calling us all idiots, and saying you are going to a new forum where there is intelligence. Bonus points for that. Welcome to the OT.
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JustThisOnce
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Apologies for the thread necromancy, but it came up in my Google search.
Disclaimer: No, I don't work for Leapers or know anyone who does. I do, however, own one of their lower end scopes and, in spite of being a scope noob myself, managed to zero mine with some trial and error. I don't know if you all noticed, but a number of you badmouthed the brand, based its country of manufacture (my 4sevens flashlight seems to be indestructible in spite of that, go figure) and one of you even called Leapers "defective". Yet, none of you retracted your negative remarks about a brand that apparently none of you have ever used. I don't know anything about any of you beyond what I saw in this thread, but it did not leave a positive impression on me regarding this forum. Leapers is a fairly well-regarded brand among airgunners, including owners of spring-piston guns--you know, the kind that destroy mere mortal rifle scopes. I don't know what else to say but that last post offering virtual kudos to the guy who finally had his epiphany made me realize not one of you virtually apologized for trashing the brand he posted about when he admitted he knew nothing about scopes. Oh, well. I'll stick to the airgun forums, where they don't seem to jump to extremes so readily. |
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tahqua
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I happen to live near the Leapers offices, hence my photo. I also happen to have had a 6X Bug Buster on an RWS 350 Mag. Once I had it dialed in it stayed put. The glass was sub-par and the illumination flared out any chance of seeing critters in low light. It was serviceable for day light use.
It sounds like you joined for just this once, most impressive. As far as airgun forums, I belong to most of them and enjoy them. Enjoy your stay there.
Edited by tahqua - August/15/2011 at 10:36 |
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ckk1106
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That had to be a joking post from "just this once." He really wants an apology to leapers? |
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Rancid Coolaid
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I don't own or operate any air guns (are we talking about airsoft or an actual pellet or BB?), but can say, without hesitation, Leapers is not a well respected name in rifle scopes.
Had the original poster put this in the air-gun section (into which I have never ventured, as I have no experience or knowledge to bestow), perhaps the answer would have been different. As he put the question in the rifle scopes, I stand by every comment I have made on this thread. Nice first post, sorry you didn't like the tone, but realize that none here were discussing your flashlight, but rather a scope made to sell for very little money rather than a scope made to function as a good scope should. Had you spent some time looking around, you would find the site very helpful and positive. Our primary purpose here was to help the shooter, and the best help one can offer to s shooter with a Leapers mounted to a rifle is to advise they buy and mount a scope that actually works. |
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tahqua
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I see no problem with the previous responses. Leapers gets no serious consideration in rifle circles. They do get a lot of exposure in airgun circles, though. My experience is as stated and I don't consider them very good optically and the illumination is ineffective in low light. I also know plenty of airgun sites that recommend the Leupold EFR's, Weaver, Nikon and Burris rimfire scopes very highly. |
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koshkin
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I am not sure where Leapers is a well regarded brand, but I unfortunately have a more than passing familiarity with Leapers scopes on centerfire rifles and I assure you that if you stumble on one that works properly, it is an exception not the rule.
The fact the Leapers products are garbage has little to do with country of origin. There are nowadays plenty of Chinese scopes and binoculars that work quite well. Unfortunately, nothing marketed by Leapers seems to be in that group. ILya
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Leaped
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I have a leaders 4x16x50 tactical scope and the turrets are indeed printed backwards compared to my other scopes. It was a brain buster to zero
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Snack_Attack
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They're right. At first glance they may sound like garden variety scope schnobs talking about something they havent used, and bashing it for being cheap, but they're just telling the truth. I have first hand experience with Leapers scopes, and i can confidently say that they are a big waste of money. If you like scopes with 2.5" eye relief, that don't hold zero, and are dim/blurry then Leapers is a godsend for you.
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cheaptrick
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Hahaha....
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Peddler
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Well..........That's all folks.
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