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I have been reading a book he wrote called "Stop teaching our kids to Kill".  I am about half way through it and it is pointing the finger at violence in the media.  Movies, TV, and video games.  Our kids are brought up constantly watching violence and murder and rape etc.  They see 10s of thousands or scene's of violence as they grow up.  Our toddlers are watching kid TV shows that have between 100 and 200 acts of violence every hour.  He talks about at that age kids have no way to process that violence.

His son's school was the first big school massacre the US school shootings an since then he has been trying to figure out and help the violence we are allowing our kits to see constantly.  

One example that really stuck out to me.  A young child watches a slasher movie.  To them it is real, they spend the first 60 minutes getting to know the characters and in their minds they are friends, someone they have gotten to know.  Then the end of the movie they watch as all those people are brutally murdered.  Can you imagine the affect that would have on that your child, to watch their friends get killed that way. 

He talks about how the military uses video games to condition soldiers to become killers.  And how video game also are teaching our kids how to become killers.  But they don't receive the rest of the training that the military people do on how to cope with and deal with that type of training.  They just get the killing part.

He gives example after example of how professional people in this field have over and over again tried to get the media, hollywood film makers, and game makers to be held accountable for what they are doing to our kids.  But they just continue to be able to make more and more violence that is destroying our society.

He talks about that guns are one part of this, but guns have always been there.  And how media violence is the constant in all these massacres. 

He talks about how this violence we watch cause depression, anxiety in children and adults.  It created anger inside us that causes us to lash out at people close to us. 

He says by the time a kid is 17 he has seen over 200,000 acts of violence, 10s of thousands of murders and 10s of thousands acts of sexual assault on violent media.  He talked about the Power Rangers and how in those episodes there were over 200 acts of violence per hour.  Just crazy, and we let our kids watch shows like that. 

He said many kids all they want to play is shooting and killing.  He says it literally trains their brains to only focus on violence and killing.  He said most kids will constantly imagine they are firefighters, super hero's, doctors, race car driver's. etc. etc.  But kids that only watch violence cannot imagine things like hat any more.  Its just violence for them. 

Anyway, I would suggest everyone get it and read it.  He has another one called "assassination generation" that I an going to read next.  If you have younger kids, read this and change what you are allowing them to watch.  We as parents have to make this correction and help save our society.  I firmly believe parents are responsible for what they watch and what our kids do.
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I have read 2 of his books,   "On Combat" and the other “On Killing". In both these books he spends some time talking about this.  I do agree with him for the most part. Probably one of the things he mentioned that really put it to reality is that Kids don’t understand the reality.  Summarizing not quoting: He mentions before supermarkets (and modern hunters) you had to kill. When a child sees an animal die, then is butchered, and ate. The child understands that when you take that life its gone. No reviving, it’s gone, death is permanent.

In one of his books though he did say something I thought was total BS though. He said something along the lines that he had tested newer kids/recruits on shooting ranges and they just  destroyed previous generations scores, because playing video games made them better shooters. I thought BS, no shooting a handgun on video game controller translate to the necessary skills to put rounds on target with a real thing.  Any semi regular shooter shoulder understand the difference.

His books are very good and well written with lots of documented info and I'd recommend them to any, especially soldiers, LE and any first responders.

 

 

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 Don't totally discount his hands on experience. I suspect the reason he saw the new kids out perform those in the past is because, The kids of these latter generations are learning memory and motor skills much earlier then kids of my generation. When I graduated higher math was optional for me but kids in the 4th and 5th grade were being taught geometry. The changes were taking place rapidly.

I use to warn people about letting their kids have those war games. They are destroying any hope of a moral foundation. But they would rather appease the kid and keep him quiet than show any form of boundaries or responsibility. I think the last 3 or 4 generations the kids are raising the parents. Most parents no longer teach and empower their kids they enable.

 

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 Probably the biggest thing  I remember and I believe is the most important and relevant todays problems really has become impossible to overcome in modern America today.
The family unit.

Before modern american, kids got up and that day they worked with their parents in the fields or in the home, leanring hard work and a new lesson from mom and dad each day.  They meals together as a family every night. No tv, no radio, stories told, disucssions occured. Then they all went to bed, becuase their is no more light to work under.

Then at some point it was common, dad went to work, kids went to school, and mom was a homemaker.


So now days you got both parents working fulltime jobs, kids are intrusted to the school system for 8 hours then who knows.  People work odd and crazy schedules, (my wife works nights)  It all screws with the family unit. To much  worldly unfiltered input and not enough close knit families bonds.

Of these mass shooters we seen on tv alot lately one of the most common traits is lack of father in the home. Single parent homes are very common today.  Alot of the inner city gangs  this is a very common that the members come from a home with no repsectable father figure.

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First person shooters do teach sight alignment to an extent.  They are automatically lined up front sight to rear sight by the game, but you do see them and you do have to line them up with the target.    A gamer picks up a gun and will likely understand sight alignment much better than one who never has.  When I read that in his books that is how I took it.  I used to be a video game addict, and those sights and optics are very realistic to the real thing.  So it is not to far of a stretch IMO. 

I have read on killing and on combat as well.  excellent books IMO if you carry a gun for self defense and protection of family.   
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I watched the movie Hostel years back, and to this day that movie still affects me.  The fact that people actually pay to murder other people in those terrible way and all the people involved in kidnapping those people just blows my mind. 

Scenes from that movie still pop in my head and it has been 10+ years ago that I watched it.  I cannot imagine what that movie could do to a your child's mind. 
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 I don’t know why, but my mom let me watch Robocop when I was a kid. Still one of my favorite movies today, What a F*^& up movie though. I would never let my child watch that. I grew up in a lot of that but I never went crazy, but it never bothered me. Now would I let me my child watch the stuff I seen. Not a chance.
I never liked slasher films, but a lot of that crazy style movies like Hostel I could watch before, I didn’t like them but i could get through it. After becoming a parent, doesn’t set well with me anymore. I don’t watch that stuff anymore, Just doesn’t set well with me. Too much evil, doesn’t set well with the mind.

 

I work a boring job, my wife works at the hospital and she see alot of crazy stuff in the ER and people dying in general, day in and day out, for years.  She told me it eats away at your soul. I believe it. To expose a child to that stuff through tv and games. No way, not my kids.

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