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    Posted: December/22/2015 at 10:28

So I'm done messing with mediocre bino's. I've had some pretty good pairs and some pretty mediocre pairs. I've narrowed my choices down to 2 that are in my price range. I can get a pair of 10x42 Meostar HD's for just over $800 or I can pick up a pair of Trinovids for around $1100. Both are fantastic prices for each model. The primary use will be identifying shooter bucks at various ranges. More specifically identifying them in the last 5 minutes of shooting light as they are coming into bow range or identifying them at ranges of up to 300 yards to try and call them in.

I hunt SE MN which is bluff country. Mornings are often extremely foggy and late season is really cold. I hunt rain or shine during the rut so in addition to low light performance if one will preform better in some of these conditions that would give it an edge.


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I'm in your boat. I've narrowed it down to these two, but still need to get to a store that carries them and check out the ergonomics. From what I've read, the glass is excellent in both and it may boil down to ergonomics, but I'm not positive. I'd like to hear some opinions on this as well. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BigGameBalls Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/22/2015 at 17:48
Also cabelas now has their euro hd binos on sale which are the same as the meostar binos. What I'm really wondering about is the 8x32 and 10x32 euro HD. From what I've heard the 10x42 is a meostar hd bino. Meopta doesn't make a HD version in the 32mm size. Do what gives does the 32mm cabelas euro HD have the HD glass?
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You are wanting "low light performance", but then you are looking at binos that have only a 4.2mm EP.  If you really want low light performance at 10x, then you should be looking at a 50mm bino.  This isn't to say that you *can't* use a 42mm bino in low light -- you can indeed if you want.  But a 10x50 will out-class a 10x42 in low light levels, as long as apples are compared to apples of course.  If low light levels were my concern and I had a Meopta HD budget, I would get a Razor 10x50 before either of the two you mentioned.

Between the Meopta and the Trinovid -- the Meopta is slightly sharper in view, but the Trinovid's color is more true.  They both have great build quality, but the Meopta does feel more solid in the hand (brick-like comes to mind).  The Trinovid's focus wheel is easier to turn - both are precise.

That being said -- the reason why the Trinovids are being marked down is because Leica is coming out with a new HD version, and rumors are that they will be priced in the same category as the Meopta/Conquest HD/Razor area.  Therefore, it would not make sense to buy a Trinovid now, unless you can get one at a very, very good close-out price.....

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Originally posted by BigGameBalls BigGameBalls wrote:

Meopta doesn't make a HD version in the 32mm size. Do what gives does the 32mm cabelas euro HD have the HD glass?


Meopta *does* make and HD version of the 32mm's.  They just don't sell them under their own brand name.

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Originally posted by PhilR. PhilR. wrote:


You are wanting "low light performance", but then you are looking at binos that have only a 4.2mm EP.  If you really want low light performance at 10x, then you should be looking at a 50mm bino.  This isn't to say that you *can't* use a 42mm bino in low light -- you can indeed if you want.  But a 10x50 will out-class a 10x42 in low light levels, as long as apples are compared to apples of course.  If low light levels were my concern and I had a Meopta HD budget, I would get a Razor 10x50 before either of the two you mentioned.

Between the Meopta and the Trinovid -- the Meopta is slightly sharper in view, but the Trinovid's color is more true.  They both have great build quality, but the Meopta does feel more solid in the hand (brick-like comes to mind).  The Trinovid's focus wheel is easier to turn - both are precise.

That being said -- the reason why the Trinovids are being marked down is because Leica is coming out with a new HD version, and rumors are that they will be priced in the same category as the Meopta/Conquest HD/Razor area.  Therefore, it would not make sense to buy a Trinovid now, unless you can get one at a very, very good close-out price.....




Interesting on the trinovid HD. Any idea when those will be released. I also fully understand that a 50mm would be even better but there is a practical size limit as to what I want to fumble around with in the tree stand as a bow hunter. 42mm is about as big as I want to get. One more option I've considered is the monarch 7 because of its smaller size but I just assumed being a $450 bino that the glass isn't as good as the other options.
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Originally posted by PhilR. PhilR. wrote:

Originally posted by BigGameBalls BigGameBalls wrote:

Meopta doesn't make a HD version in the 32mm size. Do what gives does the 32mm cabelas euro HD have the HD glass?


Meopta *does* make and HD version of the 32mm's.  They just don't sell them under their own brand name.



So the cabelas euro hd in 32mm is HD glass?
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Also how is the Meopta warranty and customer service? Debating if I should go with the cabelas euro just for the fact I can walk into a cabelas if anything goes wrong. When i figure in tax I'd actually be paying about 100 more for the cabelas euro though.
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In my experience, Meopta has very good CS.  I would not worry to much about it. 
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Is it a no fault warranty? I've dropped cabelas binos out of a tree. Messed them up slightly and gotten a brand new pair no questions asked.
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I don't think so.  Just a typically product failure warranty.  http://www.meoptasportsoptics.com/us/warranty.html
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I've never owned a pair of 32mm binos. Wondering how the cabelas euro hd 8x32 would preform vs say a 8x42 zeiss terra (the pair of mediocre binos I just returned). My thought was I could get some 8x32 which would be more compact and then possibly buy another pair of 10x42 all for what I'd spend on the 10x42 euro.
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I have some 8x32 Sightrons and really like the size.  They are bright enough for my uses during low light and the image is great.  I image the Meoptas would be excellent. 

I would love the Meopta HD 8x32s as well. 
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I tend to prefer 32mm binoculars and have  a number of pairs including the Swaro EL 8x32's. They are more than adequate for my older eyes (58). Also have a pair of the new Zeiss Terra 8x25's which are actually made in Japan Bucky..Outstanding for the money if you need the compact size.
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In general how would a fantastic 8x32 do in low light compared to your average $350 8x42? Wondering if it's one of those deals where there is just no substitute for objective lense size or if quality of glass and coating can make up for it.
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A 8x42 would have 5.2mm of exit pupil where a 8x32 would only have 4.  So all else being equal a 8x42 should have a noticeably brighter image than a 8x32 in low light

I have a couple 10x42s, Zeiss FL RF and Meopta.  Which would also be 4mm of exit pupil.   For my uses I can see in low light just fine for my hunting needs with my Zeiss and Meopta.  I can easily see game well before legal shooting time.  The Zeiss are noticeably brighter and I can see more sooner than with the Meoptas.  Either one allows me to see game that I cannot see with my bare eyes. 

So I would think Meopta HDs would be very nice. 

Bino sizes are always trade offs.  Do you want to be able to see 5 minutes earlier or would you rather have light weight and smaller size?  
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How do monarch 7's stack up againot the meostar hd?
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Honestly you are just splitting hairs when you get with the high end stuff.  Meopta HDs are right up there with the best there is. 

It needs to come down to how the feel in your hands, eye cups on your face, etc. 
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Ditto...despite having two pairs of Swaros among others, my most used binocular is an older Vortex 6.5x30.
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Originally posted by BigGameBalls BigGameBalls wrote:

I've never owned a pair of 32mm binos. Wondering how the cabelas euro hd 8x32 would preform vs say a 8x42 zeiss terra (the pair of mediocre binos I just returned). My thought was I could get some 8x32 which would be more compact and then possibly buy another pair of 10x42 all for what I'd spend on the 10x42 euro.

As their retail prices would suggest, the Euro HD will walk all over the Terra as far as resolution and build quality goes.  The Euro might not be brighter though, as it has smaller objectives lenses.   Still though, the Euro is bright enough for the great majority of situations.

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